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Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Marco Cellini (---.15-151.wind.it)
Date: February 02, 2022 06:47AM

Hello,
I'm writing you to have support support for a problem related to stained wraps, using a clear nylon thread of size A (Power Wrap, Neon Pink color #361,CP).
I made the wraps on the various guides, taking care to tighten them very well, and then proceeded with 3 coats of CP (Chromaseal).
After having given the first coat of epoxy (TM LIGHT), I have verified the work and it is very bad.
Each wrap/binding has spots/streaks, an unpresentable job!
Maybe I have used a too thin CP coat (I used a mixture of CP and water for 40%)?

Is there anyone who can help me understand where I went wrong and suggest me how to proceed to get an excellent result?

Thank you for your support
Marco Cellini

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: February 02, 2022 07:12AM

I suggest you try another wrap and don't thin the CP, make sure it dries thoroughly between coats. Should not require 3 coats, but that 3rd coat shouldn't cause a problem.

It amazes me that companies expertly develop products to do a specific thing well, then users alter them thinking they can improve on them.

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Marco Cellini (---.15-151.wind.it)
Date: February 02, 2022 07:35AM

Thanks Michael,
if I understand correctly two coats of undiluted CP should solve the problem, OK!
I also take this opportunity to ask you if too high a thread tension, could have contributed to the problem exposed.

Thank you for your support
Marco Cellini

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 02, 2022 07:50AM

Don't thin the CP - when you do, you're putting mostly water on the wraps, not the solids in the CP that do the work.

Good thread packing will also tend to prevent what appear to be streaks.

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: February 02, 2022 08:04AM

I don't think too high thread tension will cause it, especially if you carefully pack. If you can move the guides a little with a firm push then I would expect the tension about right.

Many say that one coat of CP is sufficient, but I always use two to be sure. Making sure that I keep applying it to the tunnel opening until the capillary action that draws it into the tunnel ceases. Then after a minute or so I blot off any excess with a paper towel. Same for second coat.

Light threads on dark blanks are tough! Some builders will paint the area under the wrap with a matching or close color.

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: roger gleason (192.84.52.---)
Date: February 03, 2022 10:43AM

This can happen if the thread is burnished too hard

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Michael Ward (---)
Date: February 07, 2022 09:01AM

Michael is spot on about making sure you fill the tunnels with CO. Very likely your finish is coming through the tunnel backside and turning the thread transparent from underneath as the CP perhaps did not fully soak through the thread

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Marco Cellini (---.25-151.wind.it)
Date: February 08, 2022 06:02AM

Thanks to all for your support, I'll try yours suggestments.

Thank you for your support
Marco Cellini

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Re: Thread wraps problem
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: February 09, 2022 07:19AM

One thing I forgot to mention is that this type of CP has solids in suspension and it has to be mixed before using to get them back into suspension after settling. If you have not been mixing it then that might contribute to the problem.

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