I researched and bought the T2-RVSG6S guide for intended BFS casting rod build for the first stripper guide. Do I need to revers the guide placement as for the flat ring side facing the reel? Or is it ok to place it as regular guide orientation? Might be a dumb question but this is listed as reverse guide so I don't know if it's really needed to place as reverse. This guide is small in footprint but it's height is higher than the KW guide ins size 8. Should be a good stripper guide.

TIA.

The single brace (flat) side towards the reel. Supposedly prevents line slap when the the double brace is facing toward the tip top.

Norm

Yes, flat side towards the reel. The results I have with these are great. Admittedly, I don’t have a true scientifically controlled experiment where the only variation is the RV6 guide. However, the rods I have them do cast noticeably well.

Most put them with the flat side of the frame towards the reel. Of course, if you have the guide properly located to begin with, the line is't going to be slapping or hitting the frame anyway.

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Louis,
The above replies coincide with Fuji’s intent; single leg of the RV toward the reel. However, Tom alluded to a good point that, with its vertical ring, the RV would function in the opposite direction as well, given that it was positioned properly. I have applied Fuji’s reversed-leg theory of the RV to the LC and HB as well with great results and eliminating any possibility of line slap on the guide braces. It may raise a few eyebrows and questions but no one has afforded me with a reason that it is wrong. A sloped-ring guide cannot be reversed , for obvious reasons.

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.

If anyone can think of a group of rod components that have more investment of engineering resources during development and testing than Fuji guide trains, then please post that here. Custom building is doing it your own way, but there isn’t much “meat on the bone” in going against something that is thoroughly tested and refined by people who have lots of training, experience, and scientific grade resources.

The RV6 does have a slope like all K-Series guides. Not much, but it's enough to work with the single leg. Combined with the flared double leg on the backside it "sheds" loops upward to become tangle-free as other K-Series guides.

Jim,
Thanks for correcting me; I mistakenly thought the RV ring was vertical. Since it is actually sloped, the single leg must be toward the reel. Hopefully, you are still following this topic and can tell me yeah or nay regarding “reversing” a LC or HB with their single leg toward the reel.

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.

The reason for that particular guide in the first place, is due to the relatively small diameter of the ring and its height. This makes the line flow more in a straight line than being diverted at more angle with a lower guide of the same diameter. In order to get the height that is equivalent you would typically have to get a larger diameter ring for a stripper instead of the 6mm diameter of the RV guide. It has a mild slope toward the tip and that would put the two frame legs in the front toward the tip. A great guide to use for strippers on medium to light baitcaster rods, especially for spiral wraps.

Are there any limitations on this guide for bass rods? Are they good for 15-20# fluorocarbon? Do they pass Alberto knots well if doing braid to fluoro leader?

I use this guide on all my inshore casting rods and have never had a problem with strength or knot hang-ups. It is double foot and always followed by 2 or 3 KB big-foots on my rods so there is more than enough resistance to torque in this section of the rod.

Mark, you can reverse the LC or HB but you'll end up with a bigger, heavier ring to get the height you get from the RV6...which sort of defeats the lightweight goal of the RV6 in the first place.

Since i spiral wrap, i am thinking the bumper guide as a kb, and the first and second 180° guides as kb’s. Or should i add one more kb at least on heavier rods since the bumper doesn't' really count? I suppose having guides on the bottom may offset the need for an extra kb though as well.

Why not use the RV6 as the bumper?

Dean Veltman Wrote:
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> Since i spiral wrap, i am thinking the bumper
> guide as a kb, and the first and second 180°
> guides as kb’s. Or should i add one more kb at
> least on heavier rods since the bumper doesn't'
> really count? I suppose having guides on the
> bottom may offset the need for an extra kb though
> as well.

My formula for spiral wraps is a RV6, KB5 (Bumper), KB4 Bumper, KB4 (180) to the tip section with the 3 guides closest to the tip being KT4s. This makes a nice straight line (or at least straight as possible) and keeps the line off the blank if done correctly.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2022 02:45PM by Lance Schreckenbach.

I have not used the rv6 yet, just placed order. It sounded like a high framed guide (for a size 6). So, for the bumper guide, as low as possible is the target for guide height. I will need to see i guess once guides arrive. I am planning on size 5 for all guides after the RV6. I realize i could
go smaller but thinking that is safer in case i want to go to a braid to leader setup in the future. And trying to future proof my rods for middle-aged eyes.

Jim,
Thank you for the reply. I totally understand and agree the RV would be lighter due to the smaller ring atop a higher frame. However, casting Form-Follows-Function out the door, and pursuing the ”look” of the LC or HB, it is nice to know reversing them is not wrong.

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.

Bumpers are supposed to be as low and close to the blank as possible. KB would be perfect for this.

Thanks everyone for the answer and info. I put up 2 rods both BFS casting build with RV6 as stripper guide. Haven't wrap them yet but they surely look sharp. And height is taller than KW8 guide, weight is also less. It is easier to adjust the guide train, especially when doing spiral wrap.

If you'd used the RV-6 and I saw the rod, I'd think wow, this guy knew what he was doing.