hi Jim..i,m just trying to bring a little more ballance to rod building..i,m the only one who talks about the fish fighting qualities of a rod..i get tired of talking and reading about rod sensetivity and how much more casting distance we can get if we just do this or that..we aren,t all surf fishers..lol.

Ben,
No argument there. I sometimes use more powerful rods to allow pulling fish (bass) from heavy cover. The rods don’t load well for casting, but sometimes we need a little more of one thing at the expense of another (trade-offs).



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I have always seen fish rod reaction time expressed in vague generalities such as "slow" or "medium fast", never in actual fact such as fractions of a second. Perhaps current quality control in rod blank production is not consistent enough to support actual measurement of individual rod performance, as in fractions of a second to return from 1/3 flexed to straight.

understood Jim and i use to do a lot of flipping with rods built to horse a fish out of cover and into the boat..my rods didn,t need any shock absorbtion like you do when fighting a fish caught on a cranking rod..that,s my point, do builders care about shock absorption in their rods or is it only high modulus and sensetivity they care about..but the higher these are the less shock absorption you have to better fight a fish..

Phil Ewanicki Wrote:
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> I have always seen fish rod reaction time
> expressed in vague generalities such as "slow" or
> "medium fast", never in actual fact such as
> fractions of a second. Perhaps current quality
> control in rod blank production is not consistent
> enough to support actual measurement of individual
> rod performance, as in fractions of a second to
> return from 1/3 flexed to straight.


I'm not aware of any rod manufacturer that provides any sort of measurement for "fish rod reaction time." When you see "fast, medium or slow" they're talking about action - where the rod initially flexes, not how fast the rod reacts or recovers. It seems that you have been misinterpreting the terms as they apply to fishing rod action and thinking they had something to do with rod speed.


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Ask 100 fishermen what is meant by "slow" when it refers to a fishing rod: "Does the word 'slow' refer to a place on a rod or the movement (action) of a rod?" I'll bet at least 95% of them get it wrong. Words have no intrinsic meaning: they mean what the majority agree that they mean. It may be the widespread confusion between a location on a fishing rod and the movement of a fishing rod is unimportant. If so, I apologize for wasting your time.



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Yes, most of them will get it wrong, just as those same fishermen think there is such a thing as "heavy action." Ignorance of an issue or term does not make the majority correct.

The manufacturers of the rods and blanks sets the definition for what "action" and "speed" mean, and they are correct by definition.

Again, below is just one of dozens of illustrations that major fishing rod manufacturers use to depict blank action. Action is where the rod initially flexes. If you want to argue, argue with them.

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I have fishing rod and rod blank catalogs going back into the early 1970s, mostly from Featherweight, Fenwick and Lamiglas. Every single one of them has a chart that shows "action" as being where or how a rod bends.