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Roller top
Posted by: Gary Dunkum (---)
Date: May 03, 2021 04:15PM

What glue does everyone use to glue a roller top ? Thanks !

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: John DeMartini (---)
Date: May 03, 2021 04:42PM

OH BOY!

I use 2 part 30 minute epoxy.


Have fun

John

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Paul Darby (---)
Date: May 03, 2021 07:08PM

I suggest , the question as in, What types of adhesive has any one witnessed a failure of, on roller tips?

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: roger wilson (---)
Date: May 03, 2021 08:15PM

hot melt tip adhesive has failed on some roller tips.

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Mark Talmo (---)
Date: May 04, 2021 01:19AM

Gary,
I am surprised to learn proper hot-melt tip top adhesive has reportedly failed, even for heavy-duty rollers. Even under extreme conditions, it is not like the tip top is subjected to, say, 20lb of force trying to pull it directly off the tip of the rod. I will stick with tip top adhesive to facilitate replacement if required down the road and readjust my perspective if and when I ever encounter a failure.

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Gary Dunkum (---)
Date: May 04, 2021 07:12AM

So i don't want to use 5 minute epoxy or u40 rodbond ?

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Gary Dunkum (---)
Date: May 04, 2021 07:15AM

what about 5min epoxy or U40 rod bond ?

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Ron Schneider (194.5.213.---)
Date: May 04, 2021 08:36AM

We have used the "quick-cure"(5 minute) epoxy on heavy rods tip tops (only) and it will release with cautious heat.

Best wishes,
Ron Schneider
Schneider's Rod Shop
Mountain Home, Arkansas
[www.schneidersrods.com]
schndrod@suddenlink.net
870-424-3381

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: May 04, 2021 08:53AM

Hot-melt tip adhesives - even old timey stick-shellac - has faithfully anchored broadheads to arrow shafts for untold years, and broadheads are subject to much more stress than tip-tops. Thoroughly cleaning the two surfaces to be mated is the key to success.

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: May 04, 2021 08:53AM

Hot-melt tip adhesives - even old timey stick-shellac - has faithfully anchored broadheads to arrow shafts for untold years, and broadheads are subject to much more stress than tip-tops. Thoroughly cleaning the two surfaces to be mated is the key to success.

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: John DeMartini (---)
Date: May 04, 2021 09:39AM

Any adhesive will bond a tip on to a blank.The number of formulations classified as "adhesives" is staggering, BUT of all the adhesives available the 2 part epoxies or the hot melt glue seem to be the rod builders choice for bonding tips to blanks.

Remember, surface preparation is the most important factor for a successful application.


Have Fun



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2021 09:40AM by John DeMartini.

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Gary Dunkum (---)
Date: May 04, 2021 11:08AM

Thanks everyone

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: Russell Brunt (---.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: May 04, 2021 07:15PM

My number one reason to not use epoxy is removal issues. If you have quality roller guide it shouldn't break and should be able to be rebuilt. Plus the rod tip would be larger. 5 Minute epoxy offers a compromise between enough strength and ability to remove.

Roller tip guides are used on heavy class blue water rods. They stand up a lot father from the blank and can see considerable twisting forces do to longer lever arm.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: John DeMartini (---)
Date: May 04, 2021 09:35PM

My number one reason for using epoxy because it affords the strongest bond.

Yes, epoxy makes tip removal difficult, but that is a future event that may or may never happen, if it does then with some extra care and patience the tip can be removed and replaced.

I am willing to risk some extra work and patience in the future for ease of installation and optimum bond strength in the present.

I have no issue with using hot melt glue, it has been proven to be a very reliable installation, but I prefer to go another route.

Have fun

John

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Re: Roller top
Posted by: John Ricks (---.tukw.qwest.net)
Date: May 05, 2021 05:40PM

Russell Brunt Wrote:
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> Roller tip guides are used on heavy class blue
> water rods. They stand up a lot father from the
> blank and can see considerable twisting forces do
> to longer lever arm.

There is an answer. Building two deep drop rods for halibut.





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2021 05:41PM by John Ricks.

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