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Re: color preserver
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 21, 2021 06:55PM

No, that was a very old Gudebrod product. The 811 was more modern, fashioned from the Epoxy Coatings Co., SC215 product.

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Re: color preserver
Posted by: John Sansevera (---.hsd1.ny.comcast.net)
Date: February 21, 2021 07:29PM

Not sure of the Gudebrod # , I started using it either in 79 or 80, If it's which I believe is #811 and the Epoxy Coating Co. made it, what's the chance of getting it from them.

Fishing is not a matter of life or death, it's much more important than that

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Re: color preserver
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: February 21, 2021 08:46PM

The first two rods i built were kits from Herters in the early 60s..they used a lacquer for CP...was that nitrocellulose? just curious..i still have the first rod and the wraps still look good, well for sixty years..lol.

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Re: color preserver
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 21, 2021 09:40PM

Epoxy Coatings Co., went out of business sometime in the late 1990's or so. It may have even been the early 2000's. Regardless, that was the end of Gudebrod 811.

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Re: color preserver
Posted by: Richard Bowers (---.ptld.qwest.net)
Date: February 22, 2021 03:23PM

There is a great product called CP Extra marketed through @#$%& Rods. It is a product developed by Gene Bullard to go along with his Diamond II finish epoxy. It is crystal clear and does not change the color of the thread in my experience, and I have used it on both Gudebrod and Pro Wrap untreated threads. There is only one drawback I know of, it does not have a great shelf life, thickens over time.

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Re: color preserver
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 22, 2021 04:09PM

That is not the product developed by Gene Bullard. That product was also made by Epoxy Coatings Company and Gene could no longer source it once EP Company went out of business. What is sold now is a different product, as is the Diamond II, which was also an EP Company product.

I still have the email from Gene telling me he was going to have to source something else since EP Coatings had folded.

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Re: color preserver
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 22, 2021 07:19PM

@#$%& is NOT a Color PReserver, it is a blank coating finsih. IF you waste your $$ On it as a CP, you are going to be @#$%& if you don't test it first. IT will significantly darken the colros, there are hundreds of posts for the last 10 years about it. AS a finish for blanks it's good.

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Re: color preserver
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: February 23, 2021 09:26PM

It serves the same function as Permagloss as I have said many times in the past. It's a little slower to go off.

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