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KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Ron Beloff (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2021 07:18AM

Does using these guides allow for a reduction of the size guides used for a KR Concept rod? I was going to use the standard KL16H-> KL8H-> KL5.5M guides for my PB691MXF build.

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: February 16, 2021 07:54AM

Go to the Anglersresource.net site, left margin, and follow instructions. It depends on the line you plan to use. 16-8-5.5, if I remember right, is used with braids below 15pound test, but check. I always use 20-10-5.5 exc for ultra light to gain versatility for heavier lines and bigger reels. Weight difference is negligible and it's a long way from the tip. All the runners are the same regardless of reduction guide choice.

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: February 16, 2021 04:03PM

If I was using a reel larger than a 3000 or had a larger diameter spool I would use Michaels set up for the reduction train and 4mm micros for the running train. Build the rod to the reel you are using.

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: February 16, 2021 05:52PM

Ron, I would say the answer to your question is yes. The 20H based reduction train gives more versality. I usually use 4.5 runners, but 5's are fine. I have a 691 MLXF and its a peach.

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Mark Talmo (---)
Date: February 16, 2021 07:19PM

I think Ron is questioning if he can step down one ring size due to the smaller ID of the Slim SiC ring. My novice answer is yes for the runners but not for the reduction guides. The runners are available in 0.5mm increments and so a size 4 or 4.5 may be the same ID as a size 5 Alconite. However, the stripper sizes are 4mm apart and too large of a jump = I think a size 12 stripper would be too small, even for the KR Concept.

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Norman Miller (---)
Date: February 16, 2021 08:16PM

The sic slim rings are not as thin as the Torzite rings. They may be very slightly thinner than the alconite rings. The old sic rings were slightly thicker than alconite rings. From what I understand, the new sic rings are less brittle than the old sic rings, and this allows for a slimmer ring to be deep pressed into the frame without cracking.
Norm

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Jim Ising (---.dthn.centurylink.net)
Date: February 17, 2021 10:25AM

The PB691MXF is likely to never see anything heavier than 15lb braid. The 16 stripper will probably be fine.

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.44.66.72.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: February 17, 2021 06:41PM

While it' not likely to see heavier than 15lb. braid , it may well see mono or floro.

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Re: KR Concept and Fugi KLH Gunmetal Sic (Slim) Guides
Posted by: Ron Beloff (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2021 07:31AM

Thanks for everyone's input. I guess I will build this rod identical to the PB691MLXF rod I built last year using the KR Conept guides KL16H, KL8H, KL5.5M, KB4, KT4(X5) and a LG4 tip top.

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