Hey Everyone,

Needing some help on a recoil guide setup for a 7' medium inshore setup.

Normally I use all fuji and would build as follows: KW10, KW5.5, KB5.5, KB5.5, KT5.5, KT5.5, KT5.5, KT5.5, KT5.5

Looking at starting with the REC doublefoot 10 and build out much like the fuji build.

Doublefoot 10, doublefoot 6, and then single foot 5's all the way to the end.

How would this setup perform?

I've never built or casted a recoil rod so I'm definitely navigating in new waters ... hoping for some insight from the experienced folks.

Thanks!

Lin,
That would work.
What tip-top are you using.h
What kind of line are you using?
Herb

Are you using the REC RECOIL guides? I have found that they cast better than the regular recoils.

Herb,

I plan on using the REC RSCT Recoil Spin/Cast Top, size 5.

Customer uses braid, 20lb test.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2021 07:52PM by Lin Amann.

Barry,

Yes, using the REC recoil guides...

Lin,
So, you're using the RSG in #10 and 6. Then the RSPGM. Then tip-top???
You're liable to see grooving from the braid.

Herb

Herb,

Yes, that was the plan. lol. Was thinking of doing RSG in 10 and 6 and then the RSPG's in 5 all the way to the end followed by the tip top.

I've never used recoils before so I'm not familiar with advantages/disadvantages quite yet.

Could you suggest something that might work better for the type of build I've highlighted? Would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

If money not a great motivator - I would go with something titanium and Sic or other ring material just because of the grooving.
Especially on the tip.
Herb

REC guides are a Titanium alloy (Nickle and Titanium). You probably won't see any type of grooving for a long time and then it would only be at the tip top if any. The only thing that is questionable about the REC guides is the Tip Top, it has a weird barrel with NiTi wire ring crammed into it and pressed. Your guide train is sound to me, although I would use 4s on the running train, but that is just a personal preference and would not really affect performance. What you want to do will work.

Herb Ladenheim Wrote:
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> If money not a great motivator - I would go with
> something titanium and Sic or other ring material
> just because of the grooving.
> Especially on the tip.
> Herb


Oh yes, I know those are very good ... have used those plenty of times. The customer is adamant about getting recoils though.

Lance Schreckenbach Wrote:
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> REC guides are a Titanium alloy (Nickle and
> Titanium). You probably won't see any type of
> grooving for a long time and then it would only be
> at the tip top if any. The only thing that is
> questionable about the REC guides is the Tip Top,
> it has a weird barrel with NiTi wire ring crammed
> into it and pressed. Your guide train is sound to
> me, although I would use 4s on the running train,
> but that is just a personal preference and would
> not really affect performance. What you want to do
> will work.

Thanks Lance ... I will try it out.

Personally I’d start with an 8 double foot the. Followed up with 2 6 double foots then the Rspg 6 all the way to the tip. The 5’s are really tiny and you will need quite a few to keep the line off the blank. Grab a Fuji Arowana ti sic for your tip top. Done a few this way and the customers have been quite happy

Herb, concerned about grooving the guides, or the tiptop? If I were doing this build I would do the recoils for the guides but would put a SIC ring tiptop on. I've never had a guide groove, even on the old cheapies I used to fish with.

Trevor, Michael, X2

I meant to ask if you are using the REC cerecoil those are the ones I use on 6 wts on up,

Michael,
I think my experience with grooving REC Recoil guides was a function of fishing in sandy/gritty surf.
I have had to rebuild saltwater fly rods because the line cut through the wraps of single foot guides - and grooved the ring.
These were from very powerful casters and most likely on the forward haul when the line was in contact with the blank/wraps/guides.
Herb

Do REC guides require different spacing than other guides of equal height and inside diameter?

Lin, I'm working up a ML 7' inshore rod. Historically I'd use Fuji titanium KW7, KB6, then eight KT5s and this system works great. With that said, I wanted to see what the buzz was about recoil guide systems so I ordered ten. Unbeknownst to me, most recoil guide #s don't coincide with Fuji's #s. So, when I ordered a RSG8, RSG6 and eight RSPG4.5s I was quite surprised at how unbelievably tiny (2mm) the 4.5s are.

I called Ryan at REC to get some advice before spending a ton of time and effort wrapping these up, albeit he wasn't too sure if this guide train would work and offered that a large OEM is using recoil 6s for the runners. After researching all the recoil guides, the only casting 6 is a double foot, so there would a ton of extra work in wrapping up an additional eight of these. So, long story short, I'm fairly sure I'm going to continue with the build as intended, but not finish the wraps before testing it out.

Let us know how your build turned out.