We have been building all of our freshwater bass rods on Fuji concept and CRB lazer guides. What differences would we notice when building on the Fuji K fame guides?

There will be no big differences. The significant difference is that FUJI K has an anti-tangle frame.
The slightly larger differences are in the use of the FUJI KR system.

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Don’t know if you are talking spinning or casting rods. For casting, not a lot of difference. For spinning, the Fuji KL frame guides are intended for use in a new guide concept rod, and thus would be used just like any other NGC guides, with the added benefit of a tangle free frame. On the other hand, the Fuji KL-H guides are intended for use in a KR concept. The KR concept was designed for braided line and employs small ring high frame transition guides which are grouped according their size. These transition guides rapidly and effectively choke the line to flow smoothly through small micro guide runners. For a given frame height the KL- H guides have a smaller ring. Thus, the KL-H transition guides would weigh less than NGC guides with similar heights. In addition, the KR concept routinely uses three transition guides, rather than the four that are regularly used in NGC, again saving weight. Finally, the use of micro guide runners further reduces weight in the tip section. Prior to the KR concept I built a lot of rods using the NGC, once I started using the KR concept I never looked back. In my opinion, derived from both testing and fishing, the KR concept results in a lighter, more responsive and better performing rod. The only way to know for sure, is to try it for yourself, and form your own opinion.
Norm

Another important difference is availability. Availability of Fuji Y and L frame guides in various finishes and with various ceramic rings is pretty limited, while Fuji K are available in steel and titanium frames, with all the ceramic ring inserts bar basic aluminium oxide. This is also a valid point to consider ...

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Norman Miller Wrote:
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> Don’t know if you are talking spinning or
> casting rods. For casting, not a lot of
> difference. For spinning, the Fuji KL frame guides
> are intended for use in a new guide concept rod,
> and thus would be used just like any other NGC
> guides, with the added benefit of a tangle free
> frame. On the other hand, the Fuji KL-H guides are
> intended for use in a KR concept. The KR concept
> was designed for braided line and employs small
> ring high frame transition guides which are
> grouped according their size. These transition
> guides rapidly and effectively choke the line to
> flow smoothly through small micro guide runners.
> For a given frame height the KL- H guides have a
> smaller ring. Thus, the KL-H transition guides
> would weigh less than NGC guides with similar
> heights. In addition, the KR concept routinely
> uses three transition guides, rather than the four
> that are regularly used in NGC, again saving
> weight. Finally, the use of micro guide runners
> further reduces weight in the tip section. Prior
> to the KR concept I built a lot of rods using the
> NGC, once I started using the KR concept I never
> looked back. In my opinion, derived from both
> testing and fishing, the KR concept results in a
> lighter, more responsive and better performing
> rod. The only way to know for sure, is to try it
> for yourself, and form your own opinion.
> Norm

Hey Norman,

Would the KR guideset that is meant for braid also work ok with an FG knot? I was just wondering if the micro guides would be good for that application. It would be likely 15 lb. braid to a 6-10 pound leader of fluoro.

Thanks,

Shawn

I mostly use 4.5 KB/KT runners and have no problem using a 15 or 20 lb test Fluoro or mono leader attached to 15 or 20 lb test braid via an FG knot. Because there is no tag at the front end of the FG knot it will pass through the guides as if there is no knot at all. Will not even be a problem using size 4 runners.
Norm

Not too long ago i was playing with the guide sizes of one of my bow and arrow rods..i took off all the #5 runners and wrapped on #4 runners..my average B&A cast fell between 50 and 60' with the #4s the same as with the #5s that i had removed, both using 10# braid..i expected an increase in distance with #4 guides, but no ingrease..i can only thunk that the smaller guides created more line drag than the #5s..with the B&A type of cast there is very little difference in cast effort per cast so i,m pretty sure the guides were the influencing factor..

ben belote Wrote:
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> Not too long ago i was playing with the guide
> sizes of one of my bow and arrow rods..i took off
> all the #5 runners and wrapped on #4 runners..my
> average B&A cast fell between 50 and 60' with the
> #4s the same as with the #5s that i had removed,
> both using 10# braid..i expected an increase in
> distance with #4 guides, but no ingrease..i can
> only thunk that the smaller guides created more
> line drag than the #5s..with the B&A type of cast
> there is very little difference in cast effort per
> cast so i,m pretty sure the guides were the
> influencing factor..

This should read very little difference in load effort not cast effort per cast...