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Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Darwin Wong (---.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
Date: January 07, 2021 12:04PM

Been reading many CCS articles here. I started performing some CCS measurements on my collection of rods and blanks. Attaching weights to a finished rod or one with a tip top was easy enough. But what if you are testing a blank?

I was using a paperclip and dental tubing which worked fine for lighter power and moderate blanks. But I have some heavier F/XF blanks that had the clip slip off due to the angle and weight. I saw NFC deflection tests that used a clamp, is that standard?

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Jeff Shafer (---.s1358.c3-0.drf-cbr1.atw-drf.pa.cable.rcncustomer.com)
Date: January 07, 2021 02:02PM

Fold a small piece of masking tape across the tip of the blank, pierce that so you can hang a paper clip through the tape.

"The greatest barrier to discovery is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Russell Brunt (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: January 07, 2021 03:14PM

Ever tie a line to a cane pole?

You can always glue any old tip on for testing. I used to have a couple of spare ones and cement in my tackle box at all times!

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: January 07, 2021 04:04PM

a piece of gorilla tape works for me around the tip guide..

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Darwin Wong (---.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
Date: January 07, 2021 05:28PM

Thanks Jeff/Ben, I'll give the tape and hang method a try.

Thanks Russell, I've never actually tied a line to a cane pole. Is there a particular name of the knot/procedure? I unfortunately don't have any extra tip tops right now.

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Norman Miller (---)
Date: January 07, 2021 05:36PM

Just put a tip top on the blank, unfold a paper clip to form a double hook. One hook into the tip top the other into a small pastic bag to which weight is added. When you get the 1/3 deflection just weigh the bag and paper clip or count the number of pennies used. Don't make a simple task complex.
Norm

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: January 07, 2021 05:50PM

As Norman says. I have a kit in the garage where my CCS setup is which has bags of pennies and other weights (bullets from my reloading supplies that are equivalent to a bunch of pennies), a piece or rod tip for the AA measurement, hot melt, a large diameter tiptop which fits everything that I might want to test, and an AA card with a level attached.

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Norman Miller (---)
Date: January 07, 2021 07:15PM

For AA measurements I bought an inexpensive digital angler indicator. Works quite well.
Norm

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 07, 2021 08:40PM

I think the OP is asking about how to hang the weight from the tip of a naked blank. Lynn Williams once offered a slip on tube that did the trick, but you can just as easily fold a piece of duct tape around the exteme tip, punch a hole in it and use a paper clip to hand the bag of pennies from there. Count the tape, clip and bag as one penny. Close enough.

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Trevor Esparza (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 07, 2021 10:28PM

if you get some small surgical tubing, or guide foot tubing from MH you can cut a short length and then use a snap swivel and pierce the tube and close it. Tie a short length of string to the swivel and the other end to a paperclip. Then you can hang the weight from the paperclip. The tube slips off and on with no issue but will hold as much weight as it needs to

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: January 08, 2021 04:46PM

Norman, just received my digital level/angle measurement device today. Should be easier, more accurate than my old card and level. Suggested by Mark Talmo.

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Norman Miller (---)
Date: January 08, 2021 05:26PM

Michael, those things are great. Can also use it to level the rod. Much better than the paper protractor I tried to use without much success.
Norm

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Keith Langford (---)
Date: January 08, 2021 07:31PM

Norman, are you using the digital angle finder in place of the action angle chart, and if so how are you setting this up. Thanks as always.

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Re: Attaching tiptop/weight to blank for CCS setup
Posted by: Norman Miller (---)
Date: January 08, 2021 09:59PM

Yes, I use it in place of the action angle chart. Just hold it against the the sloped blank tip section when deflected 1/3 it’s length. I’ve tried it blanks where the AA is known, and the results I got were right on. No guess work involved.
Norm

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