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Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Bill Break (---.dsl.bell.ca)
Date: November 20, 2020 01:19PM

My son's float rod will not come apart at the first ferrule. I was going to remove the ferrule wrap on the female side and try a bit of heat. Any help would be appreciated .
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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.68.237.121.hwccustomers.com)
Date: November 20, 2020 02:52PM

Use rubber dish-washing gloves on both hands and twist.
If that fails - shape packing tape into loops with sticky side out and use one on each hand and twist.
There was a reply here awhile back stating that carbon contracts with heat and expands with cold. So the opposite than thought.
Herb

see video using tape: [www.youtube.com]



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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: John DeMartini (---)
Date: November 20, 2020 02:52PM

Metal or glass ferrule?

In the mean time try this.

[www.youtube.com]

John

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: John DeMartini (---)
Date: November 20, 2020 02:52PM

Metal or glass ferrule?

In the mean time try this.

[www.youtube.com]

John

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Ross Pearson (---.dlth.qwest.net)
Date: November 20, 2020 04:15PM

I have had success by wrapping the stuck ferrule area with a ziploc bag of crushed ice for a few minutes which shrinks the materials and permits separating the sections.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: November 20, 2020 05:20PM

Seems counter-intuitive, but the Ross method often works. I think it shrinks the wall thickness of the female side yielding a bigger "hole." Worth a try.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 20, 2020 06:20PM

Don't heat it - that's a mistake.

You need a larger diameter surface upon which to apply your hand force. The magazine has covered this with a simple tool but I can't explain it here.

Wrap something around both sections, some non-slip padding, tape, etc., and twist the two sections apart. You just need some way to get your force to the problem without slipping.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: roger wilson (---)
Date: November 20, 2020 06:37PM

Bill,
Another thing that works very well for most stuck rod sections.

With dry hands, put the rod behind your knees, with one hand grasping the rod on each side of the joint.

Then, use your leg muscles to spread your hands and at the same time separate the two rod sections.

A persons leg muscles are typically the strongest muscles in the body and thus will work when a persons hands and arms are not strong enough to separate the rod.

Take care.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Brian Babcock (---.va.shawcable.net)
Date: November 20, 2020 06:38PM

As others have stated - Ice! Never had one I couldn't get apart by icing it. Be patient and keep it tightly packed.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Bill Break (---.dsl.bell.ca)
Date: November 21, 2020 09:02AM

It is a glass rod. Thanks for all the replies.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: November 21, 2020 10:12AM

Hello All.

Tom was that "Simple Ferrule Tool; Say Goodbye to Stuck Ferrules Forever!" By Bill Colby?

It's in volume-16, Issue-2, Page-28.


Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Bill Break (---.dsl.bell.ca)
Date: November 21, 2020 11:09AM

Tried all solutions offered. Still stuck. The ferrule is 34 inches from the for grip. the next section is 54 inches. how do I go about installing a new ferrule?

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.res6.spectrum.com)
Date: November 21, 2020 11:37AM

Hello Bill

Here is my listings of almost all the ferrule articles in RodMaker Magazine.

Volume / Issue
V/I _______________________________________ Page

13/1 Ferrule Fitting & Restoring. By Tom Kirkman. 22
5/3 Ferrule Lapping. By Bernard Elser. 22
4/4 Ferrule Making. By Ralph O'Quinn. 22
2/1 Ferrule Mounting on Your Unibutt. 24
5/2 Ferrule Plugs. By Russ Gooding. 22
22/3 Ferrule Refitting By Tom Kirkman. 22
10/5 Ferrule Seperation Tool, Simple. By Bill Colby. 18
16/2 Ferrule Tool, Simple Say Goodbye to Stuck Ferrules Forever! By Bill Colby. 28
13/1 Ferrules Integral Assembling. 26
17/4 Ferrules Past & Present #4: Ferrules Become Collets Offshore Rods. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
11/4 Ferrules, Are Thread Reinforcement Wraps Really Necessary? 16
18/4 Ferrules, Are Thread Reinforcement Wraps Realy Necessary? By Tom Kirkman. 22
16/2 Ferrules, Making Multi-Piece. By Tom Kirkman. 12
17/1 Ferrules, Past & Present #1: When Multi-Piece Rods Lacked Ferrules. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
17/2 Ferrules, Past & Present #2: Early Metal And Swiss-Style Ferrules. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
17/3 Ferrules, Past & Present #3: Ferrules Glass to Glass & Graphite to Graphite. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
14/2 Ferrules, Past and Present. By Boyd Pfiffer. 12
4/1 Ferrules, Repairing Plug And Spigot. By Ralph O'Quinn. 16


Hope this helps.


Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines.



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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 21, 2020 12:28PM

Is this a metal ferrule?

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Bill Break (---.dsl.bell.ca)
Date: November 21, 2020 12:29PM

Thanks . The only problem is I live in Canada and the magazines are not available to me.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---)
Date: November 21, 2020 07:24PM

Whenever I put rod sections together I take the male end of each spigot ferrule, lay it alongside my nose, and spin it a few times. There is always enough skin oil to lubricate the connection and prevent jam-ups.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Dan Ertz (---)
Date: November 21, 2020 08:06PM

Perhaps rig up something like a "slide knocker" on the male side of things (use tape to protect the blank, etc.) hold onto the female end, and then lift and drop the slide knocker to see if the straight "knocking" action will jar it apart. (Look up "slide hammer puller" to see what I'm referring to - it's an automotive pulling tool.)

Good luck.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: November 21, 2020 08:21PM

Herb Ladenheim Wrote:
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> Use rubber dish-washing gloves on both hands and
> twist.
> If that fails - shape packing tape into loops with
> sticky side out and use one on each hand and
> twist.
> There was a reply here awhile back stating that
> carbon contracts with heat and expands with cold.
> So the opposite than thought.
> Herb
>
> see video using tape:
> [www.youtube.com]

heat makes molecules more active thus more expansive..

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 21, 2020 09:13PM

Is this a metal, or glass to glass ferrule? It makes a difference.

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Re: Stuck ferrule
Posted by: Michael Sutheimer (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2020 02:56AM

Have not tried this but have heard it can work. Take a random orbital sander than has a soft pad with velcro type paper attachment no sand paper. Place rod on hard surface with the female tip section unsupported from the ferrule forward. Work the sander around the rod on the male side of ferrule right at the joint. Supposedly the vibrations will work the tip section loose. Again have not tried it but don't see how any damage could be caused. Would not hurt to tape off the area your going to run the sander on.

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