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PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: David Luttig (---)
Date: November 01, 2020 03:07PM

Any idea where you can purchase this from other then from fxsupply? They don’t have it and won’t for some time. I would like to try this for tip top glueing. Tried st croix and they don’t sell it to the public.

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 01, 2020 06:44PM

I bought some and several people I know did as well. We came to the conclusion that it is not the same stuff St Croix uses, or we all screwed up installing tops with it. WE all had tops spin and stopped using it once we all met up and discussed it and realized it wasn't something we were doing wrong. I know other people have used it and get good results, but that hasn't been the results of the higher skilled builders I know

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: November 01, 2020 06:59PM

What are you using now and where is it coming up short?

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: David Luttig (---)
Date: November 01, 2020 07:38PM

I’m using tip top glue but this just seems a little easier. However, it sounds like I just need to stick with what is working

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Tom Wewerka (---.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 01, 2020 08:28PM

I had a customer bring me a tip top that was sent to him by St Croix along with a small container of Piccolastic Hydorcarbon resin #D125. After I fixed his rod he told me to keep the glue. I must say that it is outstanding. It is far easier to use than the stick glue and holds like iron. Once I run out of this I will be deeply saddened that it can't be bought.

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Kent Griffith (---)
Date: November 01, 2020 08:45PM

Tom Wewerka Wrote:
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> It is far easier to
> use than the stick glue and holds like iron. Once
> I run out of this I will be deeply saddened that
> it can't be bought.


Is this the stuff you want to purchase? Click link below and scroll down to bottom of page. Plenty available...

Cheaper in quantity:

[www.fxsupply.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/01/2020 08:50PM by Kent Griffith.

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: David Luttig (---)
Date: November 01, 2020 09:03PM

Yes. I talked to them on the phone. COVID it them hard and I guess they are regrouping but right now he doesn’t have it in stock.

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Dennis Danku (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 01, 2020 10:43PM

David, Don't waste your time and money on this stuff. I along with other guys here have done so only to find that this blend of Piccolastic is not for tip/top use. It is not shock resistant and can break free easily with a tap causing the tip to become loose.
The stuff you and we all would like to get is from Eastman (Piccolastis #125), if you look up their product it is granulated and has all the properties associated with tip/top adhesive.
Piccolastic from Fx Supply.com comes in the shape of the size of rock salt. Too big to drop in a tip/top with out cutting or cracking this stuff. I was very disappointed after buying a pound of this stuff only to find that it ain't worth squat.

Dennis J. Danku
(Sayreville,NJ)

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.inf6.spectrum.com)
Date: November 03, 2020 03:41PM

In these tip-top to rod blank bond failures does the adhesive-to metal bond fail, or does the adhesive to graphite blank fail? You can tell if you look. Maybe the failures result from a failure to properly clean or roughen one or both the tip of the blank and the tunnel of the tip-top? Start with the simplest, most obvious explanation before looking for complexities. Archers gluing broadheads to arrow shafts and anglers gluing tip-tops to rod blanks got along fine for hundreds of years using just stick-shellac. It still works well.

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Dennis Danku (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 03, 2020 07:40PM

Phil, I'll send you some if you'll report back your results. I've tried it and it's not for me.

Dennis J. Danku
(Sayreville,NJ)

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Dennis Danku (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 03, 2020 07:41PM

Phil, I'll send you some if you'll report back your results. I've tried it and it's not for me.

Dennis J. Danku
(Sayreville,NJ)

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 03, 2020 08:42PM

Phil, St Croix doesn't do any of that in their factory. Whoever is marketing it as the same product they are using at the factory is lying. There's no other way to put it, although I know is this day and age I'm teh bad guy for saying it, thta's what it is

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Re: PICCOLASTIC
Posted by: David Parsons (---)
Date: November 06, 2020 06:05AM

David it sounds like you are trying to find a faster way to install tips i have installed a tip from st croix with the stuff they sent. I replace 100+ tips a year on party boat rods that i repair. I take the hot glue stick and put it in a glue gun .take a aluminum pie plate and run out long strips of the glue in different sizes. I then have them to cut into a piece to put inside the tip to heat and install like the st criox stuff.

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