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8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Al Cournoyer (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 08:59AM

I’m building a couple 3wt fly rods on the 8’ F 803-2M. Northfork Composites recommend 10 guides for that blank but all the info I have is pointing towards 8 or 9. I was thinking 10mm, 3, 2, 1, 5x 1/0’s. What do you fellas think?

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Ron Weber (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 09:48AM

I use 9. A 10, 2, and 7 1/0's

Ron Weber

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 10:11AM

Al,
I would use what the blank tells you it needs during a static flex test.
I use small neoprene "O" rings of various diameters to simulate guides. I slip 11 of them on the blank - run the line through them - slide them around until I'm happy. The extra "O" rings are snugged against the ones that are in correct position.
That way I am not taping and un-taping guides. And not risking scratching the blank.
Herb
CTS Rep.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Al Cournoyer (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 12:06PM

Ron Weber Wrote:
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> I use 9. A 10, 2, and 7 1/0's

This was also a thought I had, get down to the runners as fast as possible.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Al Cournoyer (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 12:08PM

Herb Ladenheim Wrote:
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> Al,
> I would use what the blank tells you it needs
> during a static flex test.
> I use small neoprene "O" rings of various
> diameters to simulate guides. I slip 11 of them
> on the blank - run the line through them - slide
> them around until I'm happy. The extra "O" rings
> are snugged against the ones that are in correct
> position.
> That way I am not taping and un-taping guides. And
> not risking scratching the blank.
> Herb
> CTS Rep.

That’s what I was thinking, in Gary we trust. I’ll be doing static and test casting so maybe I’ll try 9 and 10

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Gary Goldsmith (64.191.49.---)
Date: October 14, 2020 03:12PM

I had I similar issue in my NFC 6wt recently. It called for 11 guides. I did a static test and used 10. It is the best casting rod I have.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Al Cournoyer (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 03:50PM

Gary Goldsmith Wrote:
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> I had I similar issue in my NFC 6wt recently. It
> called for 11 guides. I did a static test and
> used 10. It is the best casting rod I have.


Good info, thank you. I’m thinking 9 would be enough, 10 seems a bit much

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Gary Goldsmith (64.191.49.---)
Date: October 14, 2020 04:36PM

Yeah. I posted last week about it. Honestly, I just used spacing from another rod and static tested it. It was perfect and the rod is incredible. It was the classic series 6wt.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Gary Goldsmith (64.191.49.---)
Date: October 14, 2020 04:37PM

I'm a new builder so take it with a grain of salt but I think with the 10 guides I used it would be pretty hard to mess up. Same with 9 on an 8 footer.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Al Cournoyer (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 04:39PM

I’m using the classic blanks as well.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Gary Goldsmith (64.191.49.---)
Date: October 14, 2020 09:06PM

I don't think you will be disappointed. I have a couple gamma betas coming as well.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Ron Weber (---)
Date: October 14, 2020 11:24PM

The more guides you use the slower it will become

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Al Cournoyer (---)
Date: October 15, 2020 06:18AM

I’m going to try a few different trains, I’m suspecting 9 is the magic number though

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---)
Date: October 15, 2020 05:15PM

It won't be slower - it will slow the recovery rate an infinitesimal amount - if you use light guides. i.e. REC Recoil. You really won't see the difference between 9 or 10 runners.
Herb

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Gary Goldsmith (---)
Date: October 15, 2020 07:55PM

I used REC recoil guides on mine.

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Re: 8’ 3wt Northfork Composites question
Posted by: Ron Weber (---)
Date: October 16, 2020 10:03AM

Actually, it will make the act softer overall. All guides, whether single or double footed, will soften a rod to some degree as the weight they add has a greater effect on rod efficiency than does any stiffening that does occur between the guide feet.

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