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Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Christopher Zucker (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 11, 2020 09:53AM

Hi,
First time posting, but I've been reading and learning a lot from the forums.

I am building my first rod. It's a 4 wt fiberglass fly rod. I would like to wrap the guides with white thread and a single turn, black inlay. I don't want to use color preserver and I'm concerned about the tag ends of the inlay showing through the white. Is there a trick to doing this?

Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Donald La Mar (---)
Date: January 11, 2020 11:25AM

Chris

Yes there is a technique to do exactly what you want to do and it can produce a dramatic result.

What you do is use a very fine, felt tip pen with black India ink to color a single turn of thread with the black beginning and ending on the top of the guide foot. It takes just a little practice to perfect coloring exactly the correct length of thread but it can be done.

Here is a link to a photo in the photo library of what is possible

[www.rodbuilding.org]

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Donald La Mar (---)
Date: January 11, 2020 11:35AM

Chris

I should have added you are not limited to a black inlaid turn. India ink pens are available with the fine, brush tip in .a variety of colors. Do allow the ink 15 seconds to dry before you wrap the colored section of thread.

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Donald La Mar (---)
Date: January 11, 2020 11:35AM

Chris

I should have added you are not limited to a black inlaid turn. India ink pens are available with the fine, brush tip in .a variety of colors. Do allow the ink 15 seconds to dry before you wrap the colored section of thread.

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Christopher Zucker (---)
Date: January 11, 2020 04:38PM

Thanks, Donald! That is exactly what I was looking for! I'll post pictures when I get it right.

Best,
Chris

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 11, 2020 09:48PM

Use NCP white thread and the black should not bleed through.

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Donald R Campbell (---.socal.res.rr.com)
Date: January 12, 2020 12:08PM

Donald La Mar Wrote:
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> Chris
>
> Yes there is a technique to do exactly what you
> want to do and it can produce a dramatic result.
>
> What you do is use a very fine, felt tip pen with
> black India ink to color a single turn of thread
> with the black beginning and ending on the top of
> the guide foot. It takes just a little practice
> to perfect coloring exactly the correct length of
> thread but it can be done.
>
> Here is a link to a photo in the photo library of
> what is possible
>
> [www.rodbuilding.org]
> hp?photo=21358&cat=506

Donald,
What a nice job you did on the rod you pictured on the link. What thread did you use?

Don Campbell
don@sensorfishingrods.com

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Christopher Zucker (170.171.1.---)
Date: January 12, 2020 02:19PM

Thanks, Tom. I would like the white thread to be transparent, so the india ink seems like the way to go.

Best,
Chris

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Donald La Mar (---)
Date: January 12, 2020 05:22PM

Don

Thanks for the compliment. The thread is FishHawk 000 silk color #212. It IS NOT color #WHT. 100 weight YLI silk, also color #212?, natural, if you can find it, or Kimono color #374 will work. Those threads appear to be white BUT THEY ARE NOT WHITE - they are natural silk with no dye, not even white dye.

The finish is ThreadMaster Lite where the first coat was 1 part resin, 1 part hardener, and 1 part acetone by volume. And yes, it takes forever for the first coat to cure, but the near water viscosity resulting from the acetone is what it takes to chase all the pesky air out of the silk.

The black India ink pen was a Fiber Castell fine brush tip.

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Re: Single wrap inlay
Posted by: Christopher Zucker (170.171.1.---)
Date: January 13, 2020 11:36AM

Thanks again, Donald. I did the wraps and a coat of epoxy last night and they came out looking pretty decent (by my standards).

[www.rodbuilding.org]

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