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Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: david taylor (---)
Date: December 23, 2019 08:47PM

Are there durability or other issues in putting size 12 and 10 single foot stripping guides on a 6 wt fly rod? OEMs seem to use standard stripping guides or rods that feature single foot running guides. I want to go all single foot for the look.



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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: December 23, 2019 09:12PM

You'll be fine.

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: david taylor (---)
Date: December 23, 2019 09:29PM

I will go with single foot then. Thanks, Tom. Do folks advise a normal wrap or use the Forhan locking wrap?

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: December 23, 2019 10:04PM

There's not really any disadvantage to the Forhan wrap so why not?

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: December 23, 2019 10:04PM

If your customer - or you - casts with a high line speed - then if the line knots-up on the stripper it will be very difficult to un-knot on the narrow leg.
Herb

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: December 23, 2019 11:28PM

Don't do a single foot without the Forhan !

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: December 24, 2019 12:07AM

David
And - - if your customer - or - you will get into the single-handed Spey/Skagit casting with the very thin mono running lines and a snarl/knot catches on the single foot stripper - your day of fishing is over unless you cut the running line off and start fresh.
Herb

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: david taylor (---)
Date: December 24, 2019 01:45AM

Thanks for the pointer, Herb, though I don't foresee using spey/Skagit on this rod. But you never know.

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---)
Date: December 24, 2019 09:04AM

I am unaware of any functional advantage in the use of a single-foot stripping guide on a fly rod and you may sacrifice some durability by using one. There is usually a trade-off between form and function.

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---)
Date: December 24, 2019 01:13PM

If you go to a higher single foot guide, you may also have to go to a larger diameter rod tube.

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: December 24, 2019 03:25PM

David - they are doing some amazing casting with #6 rods now using short Skagit heads - of 12-14'.
I bought some Wulff Ambush SHORT lines. The line flys even with overhead casting. maybe there are better lines for dry fly fishing. But if you will be streamer fishing - you can't beat them.
Herb

This too from Spencer: If you go to a higher single foot guide, you may also have to go to a larger diameter rod tube.

But not only the tube - I use very high #20 strippers and then REC single foot spinning guides in #16, #12, #10. I have to get my rod socks custom made.
Herb

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: david taylor (---)
Date: December 24, 2019 05:46PM

I have on hand size 12 and size 10 stripping guides in both single-foot and traditional double foot. And they each have the same height profile. I am not going for the high-profile single foot, but have PacBay SF hard wire single foots. I happened to look at 9 ft. 6 wt. St. Croix Legend Elite and Redington Hydrogen rods today in Jax Outdoors when last minute Christmas shopping. They both have one, and only one, standard two-footed stripping guide and all the following guides are wire single footers. So I could go that route.

Appreciate all the comments, gents Good news is it will not be very difficult to switch out a single for double foot stripper if I need to -- or want to -- down the line. Skagit intrigues me, but I think I will make a specific switch or spey trout rod for that. After all, I may as well keep upping the rod count in the garage. I think it is currently at about 9. And so far I only fish for trout in Colorado, Montana and Wyoming.

And I also must consider using nylon thread or trying the clear finish on #212 silk.

Decisions, decisions.

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: December 24, 2019 07:40PM

david,
Not pushing you on the single-hand Skagit - but it was designed for single hand rods of 3wt up to 6wts.
No need to go to longer rods unless you need to cast 80-100 ft.
watch: [www.youtube.com]
Herb

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Michael Danek (50.124.249.---)
Date: December 24, 2019 09:32PM

There is a rod tube with a "tri-roundular) section that takes high guides very well, by TFO, if I remember correctly. A sock is nice, but one can just use a length of cloth a little longer than the sections and wrap the sections progressively into that.

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: david taylor (---)
Date: December 24, 2019 10:37PM

Appreciate the comments, Herb. I have actually been looking a lot lately at the OPST videos, site and the Commando and other lines, and educating myself on spey casting and the evolution of late in that area.

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Re: Single foot stripping guides on fly rod
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: December 24, 2019 11:13PM

David,
Don't overlook the Wulff Ambush SHORT lines. They don't need tips. [royalwulff.com]
I'm testing the Sci Angler Skagit Short heads that need tips and the OPST that need tips.
Herb

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