I'm brand new to rod building. So far I've made 4, and the components for my 5th one are on the way. I'm doing a flipping/pitching rod and I ordered the Microwave 12-6 guide set but now I'm wondering if those guides would be better on more of a traditional casting rod setup or if the microwave guide technology would actually be a good on a flip/pitch rod. Any thoughts or ideas are appreciated! Thanks in advance.

They will work great on all applications... not necessary for flipping but will not hurt anything.

I even put the 18's on my offshore jigging rods... why not?

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Jason, try out the search function on here. Type your topic, set it for all dates, and hit search. You might have to play around with your topic title a few times to find what you are looking for. Tons of info.

No, it will not work...LOL. I have seen plenty of rods built this way and they function great. I don't think you will be disappointed. Anytime you can control/manage the line better the accuracy and the performance will be enhanced.

Can't think of better purpose for the spiral wrap than pitching and flipping.

Back in the archives, you've see a post in the M & M's that show that
a pitching rod's performance went up as the guide sizes went down. I believe he stopped with a six mm stripper down to three mm running guides, spiral wrapped.
I believe it was a Steve Gardner post, 8 years back or more.



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Thanks everybody. I hadn't been searching "all dates" so I missed out on the years of other info before I posted. Looks like I have a bunch of reading to get into, I can't wait! I appreciate all the replies.

Jason, if you look into the M&M’s you will find a ton of info specifically testing Steve Gardner did regarding a pitching rod. Although big companies have said there is no gain Steve’s tests indicated otherwise. If you do not use any knots (leaders) go as small as you can with the runners (like 3mm or even 2.5mm)

Or if you want you can use a size 10 stripper and then use size 8 runners to a size 8 tip and have a fine time pitching and catching a lot of fish. With larger guides you can use many fewer guides than are required with the use of micro guides.

Also, the larger and fewer guides take a lot less time to wrap - if that is important to you

But, as the saying goes, different strokes for different folks. But at the end of the day, you need a rod, a reel, some guides to guide the line down the rod and to keep it on the rod when landing the fish and you will be set.

Yes, there are advantages to one system or another - maybe with casting distance, maybe with total weight - but for an awful lot of folks, the extra 10 or 20% of this process, or procedure, or distance - simply makes 0 difference to them.

So, as a rod builder, consider your customer - then, build the rod that meets the needs of YOUR customer- not you, but your customer.

Some folks want a 4 oz rod, that will cast over the width of the lake and other folks want something else.

Others, want something else. Consider what your customers want and then build it.

Take care