Phil, if you've never performed any of the CCS tests ( IP, or AA) on any of the blanks you have, then how is knowing the CCS for a blank you're thinking of purchasing going to do you any good? You'd have nothing to relate them to. It would be like going to a foreign country where you don't understand the language, and buying a dictionary that is printed in the foreign language that you don't understand, and then try using it to communicate. You have no reference.

So basically, you want information from blank manufacturers that you aren't going to be able to make hide nor hair of, because you have nothing to relate it to ..........

Not many sane rod builders or anglers would go out and buy a new blank or a new rod so they could find the CCS values of this blank and compare them to a rod they already own and like. But rod blank manufacturers could report CCS data to consumers with every blank they produce for a penny or two a blank. Those buyers who prefer to remain ignorant of the blank's physical qualities could ignore the CCS data and throw it away before it corrupted their opinions.

How do you do it

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Phil, why don't you start a blank testing enterprise? I think the manufacturers would beat your door down if you can do it for "a penny or two" a blank!.

There's a touch of bad faith here.
When a company designs a blank, they do a whole lot of testing on it, and probably some of them (NFC does it for sure) will measure the CCS parameters (AA, ERN, CCF).
Adding that to the protocol, even if you didn't do it previously, would be negligible in the design cost. Anyone who actually did CCS tests knows it's quick and easy. And the figures would help those if us who understand them, and give incentive to others to learn what they say. That too is easy.

Admittedly there would be some variance for individual tokens of a blank model, but you have variance in length and weight too, so it's mainly irrelevant.

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Phil, I totally understand that it would be nice if blank manufacturers supplied CCS numbers for their blanks, but how would you know what they mean? You have no reference point.

When I first started messing with CCS I did IP tests on several factory rods I had and really liked, just so I would know what kind of CCS numbers they had. I ended up using those numbers to purchase two Pac Bay Quickline blanks to build spinning rods on. Pac Bay had CCS numbers available for the Quickline blanks. I picked the blanks that were closest in IP and AA to the factory rod I had measured. It worked out beautifully. The only surprise I got was how close to the factory rod, the Quickline blanks behaved. Pretty much a spot on match except the Quickline blanks were quite a bit more sensitive.

So even though I have trouble understanding why you want some of the information you want, (like the data that this thread started out talking about) I can understand why you think the manufacturers should supply it. After all, these manufacturers products are aftermarket. I'd love to have the CCS numbers, but you can sure know I'm going to do some testing so the numbers actually make sense to me

A few companies did publish the CCS values for their blanks, and they include NFC for all there blanks, PacBay only for the Quickline series, MHX for their fly rods, and Point Blank for all their blanks. This CCS data is currently only available for MHX fly rods and Point Blank at heir respective websites. A lot of this previously published CCS data has been archived and is still available.
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Dave: I have built out some blanks into rods I really like, only to have those blanks discontinued. If I had the CCN numbers of blanks currently on the market I could quickly find the blank I want without having to buy a load of different blanks and test each for its actual physical characteristics to find the one I want: something more informative than "smooth, fast, and soulful".

If you know the CCS of the blank you want then may be you could give it to the supplier and ask them to recommend the blanks that match those numbers.

They may accommodate you and you will get what you want,

There's another possibility to get useful data to compare blanks, coming from the distributor and not the maker. I work with a French company and we have a comparator applet, where you can see the shape of any blank in the catalog under 4 different loads and compare up to 4 of them. All curves are legit, vectorised from actual photographs, all taken in the exact same way.
In our community, plenty of people find it quite useful to make educated guesses about what to expect from new blanks.

I won't give the specifics because we're not sponsors here yet, but let me tell you that we're mighty proud of the gizmo, which we see as a service to the global rodbuilding community. Anyone can use it, you don't have to be a customer.

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