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NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Bert Zalinsky (68.235.61.---)
Date: October 10, 2019 06:12PM

I have heard it both ways. To use CP on NCP thread to prevent bubbles when finishing and not to use it so the epoxy can penetrate and lock the thread to the blank. What is the preferred method? Thx.

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---)
Date: October 10, 2019 06:47PM

No CP.

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: October 10, 2019 07:14PM

Either way is fine. CP doesn't create inherently weak wraps, with either NCP or nylon thread. Finishing may be a tad easier with the CP. But really, it's just personal preference.

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: October 11, 2019 01:20PM

CP isn,t really appreciated until you have to replace a set of snake guides or any type of guide for that matter..

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: October 11, 2019 05:48PM

What Ben says is true, however what it indicates is that the epoxy is not getting through to the blank.

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: October 11, 2019 06:41PM

that,s right Phil..i don,t want any epoxy to reach the blank..just to cover and protect the wraps from bumps and scrapes..the wraps so far seem to keep the guides in place..i don,t fish for anything bigger than bass or bluegill..lol.

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: October 11, 2019 07:19PM

I've never had a fish jump out of the water and cut a guide off any of my rods. The epoxy doesn't have to get through to the blank. As long as the CP does, you're fine. Wraps made with CP are strong enough for anything, including big game rods. It is important, however, to make sure to get epoxy into the tunnels and just a bit around the guide legs themselves - this helps prevent the guide from shifting under extreme use.


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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: October 12, 2019 10:21AM

CP when you want the color to come out true and no CP when you want it to be translucent.

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: roger wilson (---)
Date: October 12, 2019 11:21AM

Lance,
True - as long as you are not using NCP thread. If using NCP thread, the appearance is the same - CP or no CP, since the NCP thread is made to be the equivalent to the CP coated thread.

Take care

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: October 12, 2019 10:17PM

Roger,
I assumed that most of the people who have found this blog would know that, but you are correct I should of been more precise. I also did not want to confuse a newbie, so for clarification: NCP = No Color Protector (needed) it is already on it; It should stay true to color when epoxy is applied, but for some reason it is not always applied on the thread evenly, so sometimes there will be spots. Regular wrapping Thread (like nylon) that does not have CP (NCP sounds like it would not have CP, but it does), will become translucent when epoxy is applied to it. It is like fiberglass cloth when the resin is applied to it. Natural undyed silk thread will become completely clear.
Hope this helps.

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Re: NCP and color preserver
Posted by: Norman Miller (---)
Date: October 12, 2019 11:01PM

Well that’s not exactly the case. Regular thread when coated with CP will have a brighter and truer color than than the NCP thread, which tends to have a flatter, more opaque and duller look to my eye. As Lance states, Regular thread when coated with just epoxy will darken and have a translucent look, which is the look I prefer. With both CP treated regular thread and NCP thread, epoxy does not penetrate the thread, thus the color does not change very much, but you can certainly tell the difference between the two.
Norm

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