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Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Steve Colvin (---.amrdec.army.mil)
Date: August 06, 2019 09:05AM

Which epoxy product is going to give the smoothest finish going over a 1/2"x3" decal?

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Terry Kirk (---.ks.ks.cox.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 09:45AM

The one you're using for your guide wraps.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Tom Wewerka (---.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 10:10AM

You can use the epoxy that your wrapping your guides but there is a great product out there called Perma Gloss. It is crystal clear and goes on very smooth. If you re using a light colored rod , like white. it will never turn yellow like epoxy will, and your decal will look terrific forever.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Steve Colvin (---.amrdec.army.mil)
Date: August 06, 2019 11:31AM

Not to dog a particular brand, but I am using a product on the guides and it comes out great but when I use the same product over a 3" span, it is coming out kind of wavy and not perfectly slick.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Tom Wewerka (---.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 11:37AM

Steve Colvin Wrote:
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> Not to dog a particular brand, but I am using a
> product on the guides and it comes out great but
> when I use the same product over a 3" span, it is
> coming out kind of wavy and not perfectly slick.


Just a suggestion. Put it on in thin coats, do not turn the rod like you would a guide wrap. But stroke the epoxy down the length of the decal.
Then gently heat it so it will flow as it turns drying.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Joseph Ortiz (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 11:38AM

Tom Wewerka Wrote:
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> You can use the epoxy that your wrapping your
> guides but there is a great product out there
> called Perma Gloss. It is crystal clear and goes
> on very smooth. If you re using a light colored
> rod , like white. it will never turn yellow like
> epoxy will, and your decal will look terrific
> forever.

Tom, you use Perma Gloss over decals? I have only tried it once and it was a disaster. Do only certain types of decals work? Maybe I did something wrong… I really like the product, but concluded it was pretty application-specific Would love to know if there is a trick or something I am missing...

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Tom Wewerka (---.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 12:22PM

Joseph... No trick to it.. labels that come with most rod blanks are very thin and present no issues. On my Pearl Lable 270 they are slightly thicker and I'll put some CP on the edges. I work it fairly fast since it dries quickly.

Tom

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.97.252.156.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 03:29PM

This is the first time I've ever read it recommended to use Permagloss over decals. In fact just the opposite. Not to doubt Tom, but I hope you have two decals. You can use one for a test.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2019 03:30PM by Lynn Behler.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: herb canter (---.atmc.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 04:11PM

As some others have mentioned i would just use whatever brand of epoxy you use to coat your guide wraps , comes out beautiful every time i have applied a decal and no yellowing whatsoever .



Courtesy of Decal Connection:


Before you begin the application process, place a thin coat of epoxy on the blank where you will be placing the decal and let dry.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!

This step provides a flawless surface for the decal to adhere to. Without this step, we do not guarantee decal.

In most cases it only takes one coat of epoxy to cover and protect the decal.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 06:28PM

Perma Gloss is very hot and can destroy some decals. Your wrap epoxy is the best solution. Wavyness is usually caused by applying too much epoxy.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Glenn McMurrian (---.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 07:19PM

To stop any un wanted effects on my decals I always place a piece of clear scotch tape over my decals before Applying any finish and once it is dry the tape will be invisible and you will get a perfect looking decal on your rod with no ink runs or bad effects at all.

Glenn McMurrian



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2019 01:17AM by Glenn McMurrian.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 06, 2019 07:53PM

Or put a coat of CP over the decal.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.97.252.156.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: August 06, 2019 09:16PM

So, as long as a decal gets a coat of color preserver it's o.k. to Permagloss over it?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2019 09:18PM by Lynn Behler.

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Re: Best epoxy over decals?
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 06, 2019 10:19PM

Yes. PermaGloss cannot harm what it cannot reach.

But also keep in mind that PermaGloss does not give quite the same look as epoxy. Experiment and see how you like it.

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