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Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Sonny Hernandez (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: June 14, 2019 10:39PM

I’m looking to build a travel (6pc) DH fly rod for beach fishing. The casting will be overhead style.

CTS has a semi custom option for the Affinity X blank, the longest being 11’6” and 6 pieces. I can choose to have the tip stiffer or softer than the base weight, as well as the butt stiffer or softer.

I need advice as to what kind of characteristics would be best for overhead casting.

Thanks,
Sonny

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 15, 2019 02:57PM

What does "DH" fly casting mean?

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Sonny Hernandez (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: June 15, 2019 03:13PM

Sorry, DH = two handed.

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 15, 2019 07:18PM

I assume you refer to spey casting?

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: herb canter (---.atmc.net)
Date: June 15, 2019 08:58PM

If spey casting is two handed then i suppose thats what he means but he has made it clear that he plans to use both hands to allow longer casts , whether it's the exact "Proper" terminology i don't think he cares one way or the other .


The below takes you to what he's asking about , click on the "Action" options.


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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: June 15, 2019 11:42PM

Hey guys - an overhead (OH) cast with a DH rod has nothing to do with Spey casting. Further - a Spey rod makes a lousy OH rod.

Sonny - your email address is hidden.

11'6" blank is too short for a proper OH rod for the surf. A single handed rod with a proper double-haul will out perform any DH rod under 12'.

I have worked developing DH blanks for the surf for many years using CTS' blanks. At the same time a friend from the UK was doing the same. I started at 11'0". The UK friend started at 14'0"
We both finally settled at 12'9".
The challenge to developing a DH blank for OH casting is to design a 12' + blank with the characteristics of a SH rod. Much more difficult to do than it seems.
Contact me if you want pricing on this blank. You will not find it on the CTS website.
We have made it in 2pc and 4pc blanks. 6 pieces will require additional engineering and will probably require an up-charge.
regards,
Herb
U.S. Distributor - CTS rod blanks



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2019 11:44PM by Herb Ladenheim.

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: herb canter (---.atmc.net)
Date: June 16, 2019 12:08AM

Sonny , i can tell you with 100% certainty that dealing with Herb is a pleasure , i have bought a handful of CTS blanks from him and everything was super smooth with great communication , he won't steer you wrong and will set you up with exactly what you want.

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: June 16, 2019 07:17AM

Herb C.
Thank you very much.
Herb L

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 16, 2019 10:14AM

I never heard of DH fly casting or one-handed fly casting and can not imagine how to fly cast any way except double-handed - but new stuff comes along every day. When I saw "DH" I concluded it referred to double-haul, and wondered what rod feature(s) promote double-haul casting?

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: June 16, 2019 02:39PM

Double handed casting is with both hands on the rod, which is different then single handed. Most surf casters cast double handed whether is with spinning, cast or fly.

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: June 16, 2019 02:59PM

and when you get up in years, it,s the only way to cast big wind resistant hair bugs for bass any extended time..

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: June 16, 2019 06:15PM

Ben,
I gave up on double handed (DH) - aka two handed rods for the surf 4 years ago - and I turned 81 this month.
I used to use the DH rods in the surf in 25-30 mph winds. I no longer want to expose myself to the surf generated by high winds. Therefore fast single handed rods using integrated lines with short (25-30') heavy heads.
Herb

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: June 17, 2019 01:45PM

Can you double-haul when you fly cast double-handed?

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Re: Overhead DH casting fly rod characteristics
Posted by: ben belote (---.zoominternet.net)
Date: June 17, 2019 03:00PM

no you can.t double haul but you don,t need to because you can apply much more effort to the back cast and make an even stronger forward cast and the line shoots with authority, maybe too much..this is not for delicate presentations but the bass don,t mind, lol, especially at night..gotta get that hair-ball out there..lol.

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