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Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Mo Yang
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Date: January 18, 2019 06:05PM
I'm looking for rigid arbors that is as light possible for maximum sensitivity - to mate between the blank and reel seats. Any recommendations?
Thanks! Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Spencer Phipps
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Date: January 18, 2019 06:21PM
Probably the Fuji hard foam arbors. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: January 18, 2019 07:05PM
I don't think any human could feel the difference between different RIGID foam arbors. They all weigh next to nothing. Probably the harder the better. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Lynn Behler
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Date: January 18, 2019 07:10PM
x 3. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
ben belote
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Date: January 18, 2019 09:17PM
Hi Mo..yes, you want light rigid arbors but maybe more important you want to use a full length reel seat arbor..this way the arbor is in contact with more of the rod and the arbor picks up more vibration which is passed to more of the reel seat then to your hand..leaving gabs or air in the handle will not transfer much vibration unless your fly fishing which is really expensive handline fishing anyway..lol. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Paul Luechtefeld
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Date: January 18, 2019 09:48PM
I like the CFX arbors from mud hole. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: January 18, 2019 10:18PM
The white poly arbors work very well and are much easier to sand than the much denser and harder Fuji arbors.
10-4 in the comment about using a full length arbor for the full length of the reel seat to transmit the maximum amount of vibration to the hand. Be safe Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 18, 2019 11:04PM
Full length seat arbors won't transmit more vibration nor make the rod more sensitive than if you used less than a full length arbor. Use the shortest and fewest you can and still property support the seat. Less weight means a higher stiffness to weight ratio and that's what makes a rod more sensitive. Granted, as light as these brick-foam arbors are, we'd be talking a miniscule amount.
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Posted by:
herb canter
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Date: January 19, 2019 12:40AM
Never used an arbor but thats probably because i build surf rods which have much more substantial butt sections which makes it easy to get the seats solidly snug without them . I suppose arbors would be pretty much standard fare for most everything other than surf and heavier duty rods. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 19, 2019 08:19AM
Often, yes. You want the seat to fit your hand, not the rod blank. This usually entails having a seat with a larger ID than the blank's OD so some sort of arbor or shim is usually necessary.
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Posted by:
Ed Kramer
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Date: January 19, 2019 02:11PM
One avenue to consider is to turn your own arbors. Several years ago, I bought a box of scrap sign foam material (30# sign board scraps) from Atlas Signs and Plaques. This material turns really easily, can be reamed very easily, and can be made into any size you need. I checked (on-line) and they still offer the box of material for $10.00 plus shipping. There is more than enough material in the box to make several arbors. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Mo Yang
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Date: January 20, 2019 03:11AM
Greetings Everyone- THANKS for all the responses. As usual, much much grateful!
Question - what is a 'brick foam' arbor that Tom Kirkman mentioned? And what are 'composite' arbors? Are there arbors hard to the touch like plastic/carbon fiber or are the more like dense foam? Can you tell - I've never used an arbor before....:) Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
ben belote
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Date: January 20, 2019 06:55AM
hi Mo..you probably don,t need an arbor because you don,t use a reel seat and because you want a very light rod..maybe taping the reel to the handle which makes sense..plus that,s your M.O....lol. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 20, 2019 08:23AM
Brick Foam are the common foam type arbors sold by Fuji, Pac Bay and others. Urethane types, such as those sold by Flex Coat, are just as good.
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Posted by:
Tony Politi
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Date: January 21, 2019 09:55AM
Anyone tried the Pac Bay Omni Arbor??? Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 21, 2019 11:02AM
Those are very clever.
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Posted by:
ben belote
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Date: January 23, 2019 11:12AM
i never tried the omni arbors but after pouring in all that epoxy they appear to be much heavier than a full length urothane arbor..but i need to try them to see.. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: January 23, 2019 12:43PM
Ben,
You do realize that you don't fill the arbor with epoxy don't you. A layer of epoxy on the blank and a layer on the inside of the reel seat, push together and you are done. [www.youtube.com] Good luck Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2019 12:55PM by roger wilson. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
ben belote
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Date: January 23, 2019 01:17PM
hi Roger..it looks like you need to fill the whole reel seat to have any strength..if you do as you say the seat will eventually work loose..the surface of the arbors is so small, they are just dams for the epoxy.. in the video he is skimpy on the epoxy for some reason. Re: Lightest rigid arbors?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: January 23, 2019 01:58PM
Ben,
They designed the arbors and the video is their recommended installation procedure. It would certainly seem like a reasonable idea to try out their instruction technique and see how it all works out. I do agree with your thoughts on needing more epoxy, but if the designer says its enough, one should at least try one test rod to prove or disprove his statement. Be safe Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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