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Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Brittan Battles (---.eohio.net)
Date: January 04, 2016 04:43PM

Has anyone ever tried heating just the top of the guide foot with a soldering iron to get the epoxy warm enough to cut easily with a razor blade? I feel like I can't control the heat well with an open flame or a heat gun, but I could really apply hear accuratly with a soldering iron.

Thanks in advance!

Brittan Battles
Battle Fin Custom Rods

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: January 04, 2016 08:03PM

If you get the foot too hot, you will probably damage the blank. A heat gun or hair dyer is the best way!

If you try to heat the foot with the iron, mostly likely you will melt the epoxy on to the iron first.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2016 08:04PM by Phil Erickson.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 04, 2016 08:09PM

You can easily cut the epoxy and thread without a razor blade. Shave it off on top of the foot. That's all there is to it.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: January 04, 2016 08:24PM

Brittan,
I just use heat on the top side of the guide initially. That will soften the epoxy enough on the top of the guide foot to shear off the epoxy. Then, I will warm the rest of the epoxy with the heat gun to be able to unwrap the thread and epoxy.

Be safe

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 04, 2016 09:14PM

There will be an article in the next issue of RodMaker detailing how to remove a guide. You don't need heat. It's easier than that.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 04, 2016 09:14PM

There will be an article in the next issue of RodMaker detailing how to remove a guide. You don't need heat. It's easier than that.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Brittan Battles (---.sssnet.com)
Date: January 05, 2016 11:04AM

The heat gun method works 99% of the time for me, having said that, I have ruined one blank with heat. I wasn't doing anything differently than I had when removing guides in the past and i never had a problem. I just feel like a heat gun doesn't allow you to control heat well enough to be precise with where the heat is directly applied. I am interested in other methods of removing guides without using heat. I'm doing a bunch of rebuilds in the near future and after ruining a blank, I have lost confidence in the heat gun method.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Chester Kiekhafer (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 01:53PM

I would use a hair dryer and place by hand on the backside of the guide while the rod is turning. By this I mean the rod is in my rod lathe turning and is between the hair dryer and my hand. That way I can monitor the heat while applying. The hair dryer will not get as hot as a heat gun.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 05, 2016 02:31PM

I've removed thousands of rod guides. Never used heat. I must be missing something. It's just so easy to do.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Gary Weber (---.241.113.253.4wbi.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 04:35PM

The razor blade method, as Tom stated, works well for me. But I do not do very many rods like this.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Michael Danek (172.79.54.---)
Date: January 05, 2016 07:35PM

Never use heat. Never use heat. double post in one :-)

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Brittan Battles (---.eohio.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 09:25PM

Thanks for all of the replies!

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 06, 2016 09:00AM

I heat the finish it softens it and makes it easier to peal off

Just warm it Dont heat it till it is hot not good

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.102.204.190.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net)
Date: January 06, 2016 02:43PM

Tom, Michael, and Gary get my vote on this one! Soldering iron sounds like a recipe for disaster.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2016 02:44PM by Lynn Behler.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Bill Sidney (---.gci.net)
Date: January 06, 2016 03:06PM

warm is good hot is not so good, if you use heat, never so hot you can;t hold it, but a sharp knife will do a lot for you , if you use an iron
just the top of the foot / guide to warm not "" MELT "" then a sharp knife it will work for you , remember every one says warm not melt
or no heat at all , it is a go slow , to finish up use a tung depressor or pop cycle stick to pop the small stuff off

William Sidney
AK

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: David Parsons (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: January 06, 2016 05:52PM

I take a 90 degree air sander with a 1 inch disc and sand down over the guide feet or a file to remove the finish and thread pop off the guide ,peel the thread and finish off then find the end of the thread and pull it out from under the remaining finish. I have stripped some rod ( penn ) were the finish wouldn't crack off and a little heat was needed to soften so it would peel off.

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 06, 2016 05:58PM

YES
heat was used to soften the finish so it would come off
And using the heat most likely gave a cleaner blank where the thread was ???

I would be afraid to use a sander on a guide foot -- your better then I

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Removing guides with a soldering iron
Posted by: Bill Sidney (---.gci.net)
Date: January 08, 2016 02:56PM

Bill it all depends on the size of the sander , this is a 1 inch unit , very small as I see it , in fact I have never have seen one that small

William Sidney
AK

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