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Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 27, 2015 09:36AM

Hi All, many threads on painting blanks but I could not find one on Aluminum blanks. I have an old Mitchell Rod and Reel that I am redoing for my cousin. It is a sentimental piece or I prob would not bother with it lol. So, I have the Krylon (leather brown), I matched it and tried it on an old blank so that is good.

2 Main questions then:

1) Should I prime the blank since it's aluminum?
2) Once done, should I paint the whole blank with Permagloss?

thanks in advance everyone!

Scott

"My biggest fear in life is that when I die, my wife will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it."

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: October 27, 2015 02:21PM

You sure it's AL??
I have seen spring steel - but never AL.
But assuming you are correct - it's not enough to prime. You will have to get an etching liquid/paste and etch the blank and then immediately coat it with primer/paint.
Herb

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 27, 2015 05:40PM

Hmmm, now you have me thinking Herb! I guess I just assumed. Anyone know if old Mitchells were aluminum?

Either way it looks like its too much to bite off, thanks so much for the info Herb!

Scott

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: curtis drumm (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: October 27, 2015 08:18PM

In 60 years never seen one in al. does not mean one dosent exist,



Curt

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 27, 2015 08:51PM

Well, I am a rookie (4 years) so I will def yield to both of your opinions. If it was, you would have seen one by now. Thanks again guys, I think I might just try to clean it up.

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Norman Miller (---.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net)
Date: October 27, 2015 09:14PM

The handles on some of the old Mitchell Abu Garcia rods were made on aluminum tubes and the fiberglass blank was glued Into it. Is it possible that the only the handle section of your rod is aluminum and the rest of the rod is fiberglass? If so you can rebuild the handle to hide the alu!minum, clean up the fiberglass blank and repaint it if you wish. Hope this helps.
Norm

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Jay Dubay (---.try.wideopenwest.com)
Date: October 28, 2015 02:03AM

magnet?

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: October 28, 2015 07:47AM

Magnet!!!! YES!!!
Now why didn't I think of that.
Herb

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 28, 2015 08:50AM

Brilliant! Well, you are all correct it looks like. Magnet didnt attract to any part of the rod at all. Looks like the handle is aluminum and the remainder is fiberglass.

This will be my first paint, I am using Krylon Leather Brown, is it usually just 2 coats? and then one coat of Permiglos?

You guys are the best, thank you!

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Donald R Campbell (---.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 28, 2015 11:35AM

Scott Backholm Wrote:
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> Brilliant! Well, you are all correct it looks
> like. Magnet didnt attract to any part of the rod
> at all. Looks like the handle is aluminum and the
> remainder is fiberglass.
>
> This will be my first paint, I am using Krylon
> Leather Brown, is it usually just 2 coats? and
> then one coat of Permiglos?
>
> You guys are the best, thank you!

Scott,

I would do a check on the Perma Gloss being applied over the Krylon paint. I love Perma Gloss but it HOT and may attack the krylon paint. You might consider a automotive clear coat rather than the Perma Gloss. I have not tried applying Pema Gloss over Krylon; just thought a test case would be beneficial.

Don Campbell
don@sensorfishingrods.com

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 28, 2015 02:40PM

Great point Don, thanks!

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Jason Groombridge (---.tas.adsl.internode.on.net)
Date: October 28, 2015 08:00PM

G'day Guys,

Just to throw a spanner in the works, a magnet won't work. Most non-ferrous metals are not attracted to magnets, and aluminium is definitely one that is not attracted to magnets.

Cheers

Jason

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 28, 2015 08:08PM

So it is not an aluminum blank Is that not the whole idea

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Jason Groombridge (121.45.162.---)
Date: October 29, 2015 03:00AM

If you have a blank that looks like aluminium, and you hold a magnet up to it and the magnet is not attracted to it, that only tells you that the blank is not made from a ferrous metal. It could still very well be aluminium, or another non magnetic metal, or fibreglass that looks like aluminium.

Cheers

Jason

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 29, 2015 12:41PM

If you can find a good spot that you can scrap any paint or whatever off Then you should be able to tell what it is ??

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.uscg.mil)
Date: October 29, 2015 02:55PM

I will try the scrape, thanks everyone much appreciated!

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Norman Miller (---.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net)
Date: October 29, 2015 10:41PM

Scott - From what you have mentioned so far there is little question in my mind that what you have is a Mitchell Abu Garcia rod with a handle built on an aluminum tube with a fiberglass blank glued Into the handle. This was a very common way for rods to be built back in the 60's &70's. There is no such thing as an an all aluminum rod, so I'm sure some of the cork was chipped away on the handle revealing the aluminum tube that you noticed. So to refurbished this rod remove the rest of the old cork (and possibly the reel seat) and rebuild the handle using cork rings or a premade grip reamed to fit. Make sure the entire aluminum tube is covered by the new handle. After removing the old metal guides, you may be able to just clean up the fiberglass blank and rewrap. If the finish looks awful than you can scrape it down and paint it. Not sure how perma gloss may or may not react with the spray paint you are going to use, so make sure you test it on scrap piece of blank.
Norm

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Re: Painting an Aluminum Blank
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.sub-70-192-30.myvzw.com)
Date: October 30, 2015 10:02AM

Great info, thanks Norm!

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