There is another thread regarding crappie rods but I did not want to hijack so I will start another. I have built crappie rods using the 1084 salmon steelhead blanks with great satisfaction. I like to fish around brush and we typically hook and then flip the fish in the boat. Many folks suggest using a 5wt flyrod blank for crappies. I am totally unfamiliar with flyrod blanks and their action. Are they comparable to the 1084 or are they more flimsy at the tip. I don't want to order a blank and then be unhappy when I get it.

thanks steve

Your rod is in the 11-12 wt. fly rod blank range.

Skip the fly rod blanks - generally slower actions and I feel less durable. The Batson RX6 salmon/steelhead blanks are excellent in this application.

Thanks - Marc

Keep it simple - that's all I can handle!

If you want to flip the crappie, don't use a fly rod.

Be safe

Thanks guys. I think I will stick with the salmon steelhead blanks for my type of fishing.
steve

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So on a 12 ft. rod how long will your handle be? Same as on a 9ft. or any other?

I certainly have little to no experience with crappie rods, but I'm honestly having a difficult time wrapping my head around a 1084 for crappie. I've built salmon rods on 1084s.. Just saying...

Why would a person need a 1084 and how would they use it? Are we talking about something like see and/or feel the bite and then upswing the rod and lift the fish right out of the water swinging it pendulum style into your hand? Do you need the combo of length, durability, and power to dangle a slab crappie from a line with the rod held vertically and not breaking? Or is a rod like this for lifting a fish from heavy cover? Someone please explain a scenario where a 1084 would be desirable. A 1084 doesn't seem necessary for playing a fish to boat's edge and reaching down to lift the fish from the water, so I guess i'm missing something here.

Please understand I'm not being critical, just inquisitive. I have a few 1084's lying around collecting dust and am wondering if I should dust them off and maybe build them up and give them as gifts to some friends and long time customers. I don't use them for salmon rods anymore so seeing thee 1084s mentioned in this thread peaked my curiosity.

The longest I have built is a 10.5 fter. My handles are about the same. I build similar to a fly rod with a very short rear grip and longer fore grip.
steve

Personally, I use 10 wt. Spey blanks for panfish.

John E Powell Wrote:
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> I certainly have little to no experience with
> crappie rods, but I'm honestly having a difficult
> time wrapping my head around a 1084 for crappie.
> I've built salmon rods on 1084s.. Just saying...
>
> Why would a person need a 1084 and how would they
> use it? Are we talking about something like see
> and/or feel the bite and then upswing the rod and
> lift the fish right out of the water swinging it
> pendulum style into your hand? Do you need the
> combo of length, durability, and power to dangle a
> slab crappie from a line with the rod held
> vertically and not breaking? Or is a rod like this
> for lifting a fish from heavy cover? Someone
> please explain a scenario where a 1084 would be
> desirable. A 1084 doesn't seem necessary for
> playing a fish to boat's edge and reaching down to
> lift the fish from the water, so I guess i'm
> missing something here.
>
> Please understand I'm not being critical, just
> inquisitive. I have a few 1084's lying around
> collecting dust and am wondering if I should dust
> them off and maybe build them up and give them as
> gifts to some friends and long time customers. I
> don't use them for salmon rods anymore so seeing
> thee 1084s mentioned in this thread peaked my
> curiosity

Pretty much yes to all your questions. Not all scenerios are the same and the one you mentioned about playing a fish to the boat and reaching down to get the fish does exist. A few years back we spent the day fishing a huge log jam reaching back in as far as we could hoisting crappies out between the logs. We were using factory crappie rods 10 ft long. Many of the fish would fall off bouncing there way back to the boat off the top of the logs because the rods were too limpy or soft. The 1084s are lighter, have more power than factory rods, making flinging them back into your chest easier, versus banging off the side of the boat.
Most of my crappie rods I have built were on fish eagle 2s gst864 and 1004. I would purchase when they were on sale. I have noticed that the company that sold them does not handle rod building supplies now. I must give credit to Jay

John E Powell Wrote:
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> I certainly have little to no experience with
> crappie rods, but I'm honestly having a difficult
> time wrapping my head around a 1084 for crappie.
> I've built salmon rods on 1084s.. Just saying...
>
> Why would a person need a 1084 and how would they
> use it? Are we talking about something like see
> and/or feel the bite and then upswing the rod and
> lift the fish right out of the water swinging it
> pendulum style into your hand? Do you need the
> combo of length, durability, and power to dangle a
> slab crappie from a line with the rod held
> vertically and not breaking? Or is a rod like this
> for lifting a fish from heavy cover? Someone
> please explain a scenario where a 1084 would be
> desirable. A 1084 doesn't seem necessary for
> playing a fish to boat's edge and reaching down to
> lift the fish from the water, so I guess i'm
> missing something here.
>
> Please understand I'm not being critical, just
> inquisitive. I have a few 1084's lying around
> collecting dust and am wondering if I should dust
> them off and maybe build them up and give them as
> gifts to some friends and long time customers. I
> don't use them for salmon rods anymore so seeing
> thee 1084s mentioned in this thread peaked my
> curiosity

Pretty much yes to all your questions. Not all scenerios are the same and the one you mentioned about playing a fish to the boat and reaching down to get the fish does exist. A few years back we spent the day fishing a huge log jam reaching back in as far as we could hoisting crappies out between the logs. We were using factory crappie rods 10 ft long. Many of the fish would fall off bouncing there way back to the boat off the top of the logs because the rods were too limpy or soft. The 1084s are lighter, have more power than factory rods, making flinging them back into your chest easier, versus banging off the side of the boat.
Most of my crappie rods I have built were on fish eagle 2s gst864 and 1004. I would purchase when they were on sale. I have noticed that the company that sold them does not handle rod building supplies now. I must give credit to Jay Hunt. He put me onto using the SS blanks when I first started building a few years back.
steve

Okay Steve, thanks.

The few times i've fishes for crappie has just been open water with slip bobber kind of fishing so the idea you described was/is completely foreign to me.