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2 piece blanks
Posted by: Steven Paris (---.dsl.louisacomm.net)
Date: February 20, 2013 01:35PM

I have built on some two piece salmon steelhead blanks and the butt end has always been the female section. I purchased another brand of blank and notice the butt end is the male end. Appeareance wise I like the butt end being the female end because the taper looks better. Is appearance the only difference? I am hoping that strength is the same.

Steve

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 20, 2013 01:42PM

When the butt is the male and the tip fits over the butt tip being female it fits Much Better
Rods are fatter at the butt and taper to a thinner tip IMHO

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 20, 2013 02:21PM

It's not generally anywhere nearly as sound because you have a smaller area going into a larger area and as it wears the fit enlarges. I won't hazard a guess as to what type of blank it is, but that sort of ferrule, in most cases, is found on less expensive rods.

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Randolph Ruwe (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: February 20, 2013 04:55PM

Who (what MFg) made the tip into butt blanks? I know of 2 that formerly made them, Lamiglas that was all graphite and Scientific Anglers 3M which had a finely fitted metal ferrule. Both have been out of production for years.

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 20, 2013 06:42PM

Daiwa, Garcia, Berkley, Bass Pro Shops, etc., etc., etc.

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.war.clearwire-wmx.net)
Date: February 20, 2013 08:17PM

The Trask, 36 mil modulus, Lamiglas blanks/rods of the late 70's real early 80's were that way. About 20 years ago when Shimano decided to get into the steelhead business, the ugly all silver, even the wraps, Canis high end rods also were built that way.

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Michael Danek (50.33.215.---)
Date: February 20, 2013 10:25PM

I've looked at every mulitple piece rod I have and every one is male=butt, butt or lower section into the forward section (female), and I've never had a bit of trouble. Some are $150 blanks. Are we sure we are all talking the same "language?" I don't remember ever seeing a multi piece rod with the lower section being female, going over/around the forward section.

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: February 20, 2013 11:24PM

I can't figure out how a "female" butt section can work properly, as the taper gets larger as you progress toward the butt. Thus you would be inserting (upper male section) into an increasing larger diameter (female section) butt. In other words the taper is working ahainst you rather then for you!

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Steven Paris (---.dsl.louisacomm.net)
Date: February 21, 2013 11:00AM

Ok, I re-checked my blanks I had built on previously and I was wrong. They are just like the Pac Bay blanks I just purchased. The tip end is female. I guess I cant trace rod blanks from end to the other in my overhead rod rack....I am sorry for the confusion, but do thank those who explained why it should be that way...........sorry again.

Hope everyone has a good time at the expo!

Thanks
Steve



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2013 06:25PM by Steven Paris.

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Re: 2 piece blanks
Posted by: Donald Becker (---.hawaii.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2013 11:49PM

Phil Erickson Wrote:
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> I can't figure out how a "female" butt section can
> work properly, as the taper gets larger as you
> progress toward the butt. Thus you would be
> inserting (upper male section) into an increasing
> larger diameter (female section) butt. In other
> words the taper is working ahainst you rather then
> for you!

Some high end blank manufacturers who make tip into butt blanks are Conoflex, Zziplex & Century.

Both sleeved ferrules and spigot type ferrules have their advantages and disvantages.

In reference to the above question:
A rod or heavy tube is inserted into the tip section to form the spigot. The spigot is ground so the the diameter gets smaller towards the handle end. The ferrule is called a reverse ferrule, reverse join, or reverse taper. I'm not sure which.

Don Becker

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