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Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: John Williams (---.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net)
Date: February 02, 2013 05:09PM

Just need some help Identifing an old fly rod.

3-piece rod. Measures 8'3''










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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 02, 2013 05:30PM

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Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: John Williams (---.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net)
Date: February 02, 2013 06:36PM

Sorry, not a big technology buff. My email is flood64@ymail.com

And I have it shown now.

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 02, 2013 06:47PM

I don't recognize the logo decal off the top of my head, but it's a fairly common commercial make from around the 1940's. The hardware is telling.

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: John Martines (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: February 02, 2013 08:55PM

I'll guess.. Kingfisher? Montuage?

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: Randolph Ruwe (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: February 02, 2013 10:19PM

I don't believe it is a Kingfisher or Montague. The readable letters of the decal would point to a maker withe the first initial "J" and the last "O" . I don't know who that would be. an internet surch is in order here. I would like to see the guides, especially the stripper.

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: February 02, 2013 11:15PM

I do not believe Montague ever used a decal of that shape most are round or oval. It also appears from the photos that the first letter may be a "U" rather than a "J". John can you determine better what the letters are?

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: Randolph Ruwe (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: February 02, 2013 11:26PM

Phil, your may be right about the 1st letter being a U, I still don't have a clue as to who might have made it. I don't recall any makers whose frist initial would have been a U. I have Montague, Phillipson, Orvis, Heddon and other old rods, and can't find one to match that Logo.

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: John Williams (---.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net)
Date: February 03, 2013 12:53AM

I cleaned the rod off a little and took a closer look with my son. The first letter on top is most definitly a U. And after brainstorming a big on the smaller bottom letter we came up that it is probably JAPAN, it looks like a A P and japan would seem to fit. Also posting some more pictures.










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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: Russell Brunt (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: February 03, 2013 11:48AM

Hardly an answer but you might find the following worth the read.

[www.maxrod.net]

I'll cut and paste this too

"Yes, Tosaku is a well known name in Japanese bamboo rod making history. I have read that as many as 26 brand names were attached to bamboo fly rods and other bamboo rods made in occupied Japan following WW II. Some of these rods are undoubtedly of better quality than others. Most were high production rods and sold for $2 or so to US servicemen stationed in Japan. Thousands of these rods found their way to the USA as gifts or as souvenirs for the servicemen. Many were used as everyday fishing tools, but a surprising number were never used at all and can be found in essentially brand new or mint condition. It sounds like your Grandfather may have brought this one home as a souvenir and kept it as a reminder of his war time experiences rather than used it as a fishing tool.

In general, the Japanese rods do not have a high collector value. Most can be purchased in the $25-$50 range with really good specimens selling closer to $100. I had a mint condition set a few years ago that I sold for $175 but that was really an exception to the general rule. For insurance purposes, you may wish to consider your rod in the $150-$200 range as I am sure you won't be selling it and it will appreciate over time. It is likely of higher quality than the average post war rod and would certainly be impossible for you to replace with the family history it holds."

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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Re: Identify Grandpa's Rod
Posted by: David Gilberg (---.pghk.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2013 12:56PM

My first impression was that this is a Japanese rod from the post WWII era.
The deciphered markings seem to support this assumption.
As noted these were not the top quality heirloom grade bamboo rods one would most desire.
The personal history is it's strength and as such it is certainly worth caring for it.
Refurbishing it would be a nice project.
It might even turn out to be a very nice caster.
Good luck with it.

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