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A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 18, 2012 11:53AM

Morning all, I am doing my first white blank, a U of TENN theme rod. I want to do something pretty cool with the hook keeper and I was thinking if I put white thread with the orange that the white will become transparent. Am I correct in that assumption?

Thanks!

Scott

"My biggest fear in life is that when I die, my wife will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it."

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Jim Gamble (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: November 18, 2012 11:54AM

White silk, yes. White thread, no.

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 18, 2012 12:00PM

Ahh. Makes sense. Thanks for the quick reply Jim

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Randolph Ruwe (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: November 19, 2012 03:36PM

If you don't want the white thread to be transparent, use white NCP thread.

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 19, 2012 03:57PM

if you are unsure of the look you want Do the thread wraps on some scrap with CP without - finish and see what you like

Keep the scrap for reference later

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 19, 2012 04:31PM

thanks guys. I am hoping it just keeps the white color of the blank going and just blends in,but will prob do as Bill suggested and try it on a scrap piece, thanks again!

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Ron Schneider (---.mid.suddenlink.net)
Date: November 20, 2012 05:03PM

One way to check is to wrap and then moisten with alcohol.
It will mimick instantly what it will look like with finish and no CP.
Will not be exact, but very close.
Then the alcohol simply evaporates in a few minutes.
Hope this helps,

Best wishes,
Ron Schneider
Schneider's Rod Shop
Mountain Home, Arkansas
[www.schneidersrods.com]
mtnron40@yahoo.com
870-424-3381

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.sub-174-252-48.myvzw.com)
Date: November 20, 2012 06:26PM

Great tip. Thanks!

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Jim Kinkennon (---.hsd1.tn.comcast.net)
Date: November 20, 2012 09:08PM

I just rewrapped my UT Vols theme rod, because of excessive ambering of the finish over the white thread and white blank. I hope this will not be a problem for you.

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 21, 2012 06:51AM

Did it anber anywhere else or just over the white? Havent done it yet so very curious. What kind of finish? Thanks!

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Jim Gamble (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: November 21, 2012 07:10AM

All two-part epoxy will amber over time. It is always more obvious over white threads, white blanks, etc.

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Jim Kinkennon (---.hsd1.tn.comcast.net)
Date: November 21, 2012 07:14AM

It ambered everywhere, but the ambering was not noticeable over the orange thread. It was awful over the white thread and white blank.Because it was so long ago, I don't remember which finish. It was a regular hi-build two-part epoxy finish. I think thinning the finish with acetone made it worse. The consensus is that all epoxy finishes amber somewhat over time, although some recent versions claim not to.

On my rewrap, I'm trying U-40 LS Supreme, which claims to be crystal clear and 'light stable'. According to directions, I haven't thinned it with anything. It seems to be clear so far, but hasn't been in the sun yet. We'll see.

Good luck with your design.

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 21, 2012 08:51AM

A Urethane clear over the white blank let dry then wrap and then over the threads should stay clearer longer

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Jim Kinkennon (---.hsd1.tn.comcast.net)
Date: November 21, 2012 10:34AM

Just to be 'clear' about it, does this mean using a urethane finish instead of a two-part epoxy finish? Sounds like a good idea.

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Jim Gamble (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: November 21, 2012 12:48PM

Putting urethane over the blank does nothing. If the paint yellows, it will show through the clearest of finishes. Using urethane as THE thread finish will elminate yellowing, but it is a different beast altogether to work with. Do a search here on PermaGloss and/or urethane and you can find information on the subject. Other than that, all two part epoxies will yellow - as I mentioned before. Some more than others, some situations (like your white thread) more noticeable than others.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2012 12:48PM by Jim Gamble.

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Re: A white thread on white blank question
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.sub-174-252-42.myvzw.com)
Date: November 21, 2012 01:12PM

Thanks all for info much appreciated. Think i will avoid the white thread since it is for a customer.

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