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Robert's Wrap
Posted by: Tony (---.olypen.com)
Date: August 25, 2001 01:32PM

I been looking at this site for a couple of weeks now and I see people talking about Robert wraps and spiral wraps pertaining to the guides on rods. I think I have figured out that it is guides that go around the rod. If someone would please fax me some examples, I would be very grateful. I would like to know what everyone is talking about.

Thank You
Tony

Fax #360-582-1334

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Re: Robert's Wrap
Posted by: Tom McNamara (---.24.97.oviedo.cfl.rr.com)
Date: August 25, 2001 10:59PM

I will fax you a layout for a bottom rod. Anyone else just email me with your fax # for a copy.

Tom McNamara
Mud Hole

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Re: Robert's Wrap
Posted by: Don Morton (---.localaccess.net)
Date: August 25, 2001 11:11PM

Tony, the term Robert's wrap was coined by a rod builder from FL. by the name of Joy Dunlap. Joy found out about the wrap from a fellow rod builder by the name of Roberts thus Robert's wrap. Actually the process was patented by John Scanlan in 1909. The term Robert's wrap/spiral wrap and many other names refer to the process of spiraling the line around the rod from the reel on top of the rod to the tip guides on the bottom of the rod. There are many ways to achieve this task. Originally, the line was moved to the bottom of the rod in 6 to 8 inches using 4 or more guides. A more common approach now seem to use a some what normal guide spacing and a longer distance around the rod. Regardless of the technique used to move the line around the rod a couple of points should be considered. First the line should flow as straight as possible from the reel to the tip in any fishing position. Second the line should make as small an angle as possible at each guide. Third the line should touch only the top or bottom of each guide. Forth the line should get around the rod before the curve or bend in the rod when fishing. Fifth the line should move through the guides with out vibrating when casting. If these criteria are followed the wrap will be fine reguardless of the technique used to move the line around the rod.

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Re: Robert's Wrap
Posted by: elrod (150.199.191.---)
Date: August 27, 2001 12:10PM

I am going to attempt the wrap technique on a 6ft GL3 casting blank. Do you typically make the wrap with the same size guides or decrement in size as normal. Would you place a 12-12-12-10-8......or do a 12-10-10-8-........ etc. I know it will vary a little according to reel and each particular blank, but what is a good starting point?

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elrod
Posted by: Jim Johns (---.boeing.com)
Date: August 27, 2001 01:39PM

I'd use Fuji Alconite guides as follows: BLNAG12J, BLNAG10J, BUNAG8J, BUNAG7J, BLAG6J (x 4) + BFAT6(tip size), with the first 4 guides making the turn.

I've built several spiral wrapped rods this year, all 7 footers. I use 9 guides + tip top on those rods (I add a BLNAG7J) and it works great. Just my 2¢ worth -- Jim

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