Jorge Pozzobon
Registered: May 2007
Location: Passo Fundo - RS - Brasil
Posts: 1,147
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Fri December 21, 2007 6:42pm
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Simple but very classy and great look. Merry Christmas Jeff.
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Jeff Shields
Registered: February 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 203
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Fri December 21, 2007 6:49pm
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Thanks Jorge, I appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you as well.
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Bill Stevens
Registered: April 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Posts: 712
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Fri December 21, 2007 7:01pm
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What is the size of the bumper and the distance from the first guide? Could you feed a line through and take another picture for us? Thanks
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Jeff Shields
Registered: February 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 203
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Fri December 21, 2007 7:12pm
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Bumper is actually a 12, should've/could've been a 10 but ran out of them. The rod has already been delivered so I don't have access to it. Bumper is approximatly 6 inches from the first guide and 4 inches from the second (first 180).
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edward torres
Registered: April 2007
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 236
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Fri December 21, 2007 9:33pm
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Great job Jeff simple and a beauty with out doubt. Eddie
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Anthony Lee
Registered: September 2006
Location: Singapore
Posts: 264
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Fri December 21, 2007 11:46pm
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Jeff, that's a nice rod. Can you explain why your bumper is not mid-way between the stripper and first 180? Secondly, why didn't you use the same size for all the running guides? Thanks.
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russell cook
Registered: May 2007
Posts: 127
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Sat December 22, 2007 12:33am
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Man your work blows me away. I can't wait to see some in person in Houston. Great Job.
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Tom Kirkman
Registered: March 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,568
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Sat December 22, 2007 8:22am
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Not really a bumper guide. It will carry some side load at that location. Should still work however.
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Jeff Shields
Registered: February 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 203
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Sat December 22, 2007 5:17pm
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I specifically placed the "bumper" guide where it is. During static deflection testing, when the guide was exactly between the two guides, and the guides were just taped on, when I put a lot of load on the blank the bumper wanted to twist. When I moved it forward an inch or two I got no movement at all. Under no load the line sits at about 5 O'clock on the bumper ring, blank under heavy load the line sits at 7 O'clock. I felt this worked the best for this rod and set up. Am I missing something other than the guide being a little too large ?
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BIlly Vivona
Registered: March 2005
Location: Staten Island, New York
Posts: 2,910
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Sat December 22, 2007 5:56pm
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Jeff, what you experianced is normal with teh bumper guide. Quite a few people have run into the same exact problem, and have fixed it by moving that guide up a drop. Are thos eIGHNSG guides? Nice job on teh rod, as usual
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Jeff Shields
Registered: February 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 203
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Sat December 22, 2007 6:48pm
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Hi Billy, Thanks for the comment.
If I remember correctly, I used Pac Bay GTHG Hialoy's on that rod. Yeah, I just felt that by placing the bumper where it got the least amount of torsion was a better move than to just use a ruler, IMO. It's amazing how much a guide can tell when under stress about where it would "like" to be located.
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Anthony Lee
Registered: September 2006
Location: Singapore
Posts: 264
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Sun December 23, 2007 12:04am
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Jeff, sorry I still don't understand your explanation. I have never experienced this in my last two rods, both are 2 pc, 6'6" bass rods line weight 8-14 lb. What's your distance between the stripper and first 180? What I did was to place the bumper at about 95 degrees and mid way between stripper and first 180. My tests did not show any load on the bumper.
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Shawn Queeney
Registered: April 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 26
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Sun December 23, 2007 2:50am
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Looks phenomenal Jeff. I'm getting the hang of this TM Lite finally...now if I could just take a picture worth a crap!  Keep it up bud.
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Tom Kirkman
Registered: March 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,568
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Mon December 24, 2007 10:18am
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No, if the first two guides are properly located in relation to each other you won't have any side load on the bumper guide. It's something a lot of people miss but it won't keep your rod from working. It's not the Simple Spiral but it is still a spiral wrap and should work fine.
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