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Tom Kirkman
Registered: March 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,568
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Taking good photos of tiger wraps isn't really hard and you can show them to good effect on the internet. But you must remember that the internet is a low resolution medium - high res photos are wasted on the internet as your computer monitor isn't going to use much of anything past 72dpi.
What you see here is a low res photo, 72 dpi in jpeg format. Even so, you can see the Tiger effect rather well.
The key is always in taking a good photograph to start with. No amount of resizing or editing is going to save a bad photo. I have an article ready to go in a future issue of RodMaker explaining the relationship between lighting, focus, aperature and exposure. Once you understand the relationship these 4 aspects have to each other, anyone can take great photos for any medium.
Watch your film speed too - the higher the speed, the lower the quality. And since you don't need to stop action, you can normally shoot at a very low speed. (Yes, digital cameras use "film speed" too.) I guess I need to get that article in print.
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Keywords: tiger wrap holo throop colby
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Bill Stevens
Registered: April 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Posts: 712
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Fri October 5, 2007 8:21pm
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Is it possible to take a "good" photo with a digital autofocus camera? I am using a Nikon 4100. I can find no information in the manual about apeture setting. I am not using film and the only thing I can find in the book is something called mode. If the autofocus is targeting the top thread layer could the second layer of thread covered by finish make this burried layer be appearing as blurred "background" and fuzzing up the photo. If I am wasting my time trying to produce a photo like shown in the mag and it is not possible with a digital camera I sure would like to know.
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Tom Kirkman
Registered: March 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,568
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Fri October 5, 2007 10:25pm
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It is possible but I don't know enough about your camera to say what you can really do with it. Do you see an "aperture priority" mode? If so, then you are sitting on the key to taking good photographs.
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James Labanowski
Registered: March 2005
Location: Oxnard, California
Posts: 2,061
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Fri October 5, 2007 11:56pm
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Those are excellent photos Tom. I have got the weaving and Crosswraps down pat but the tiger stuff really has me perplexed.
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Steven Libby
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 112
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Sat October 6, 2007 4:25am
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Bills Nikon? [ link ]
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Bill Stevens
Registered: April 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Posts: 712
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Sat October 6, 2007 7:14am
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Thanks Steven maybe someone will know how I can "trick" this auto focus camers into taking an acceptable picture of the Holo Thingy! At present the Holo is tricking the "camera eye" just like the Holo is tricking my eye when viewing. Doc I think your choice of "perplexed" also expresses my present state of mind where photoing these darn things is involved. Doc also look at the blue one in the center of the photo - down on the bottom - you will see a couple of round circular patterns exposed. Do you have any idea what burnish technique or thread positioning causes this effect? I woulld like more circles and less swirls and can not figure out how to get them to appear on command.
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Tom Kirkman
Registered: March 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,568
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Sat October 6, 2007 9:08am
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Of the 6 wraps you see above, I made 5 of them by Scott's instructions. The 3rd from the left, was done by Bill Colby and is just slightly different - notice that there are 3 colors involved. This is from his use of varigated thread, which I think is the only way he's ever made them. I suspect, however, that the patterns are random. You could email Bill or Scott and ask them for specifics but I can't really imagine how you can purposely create certain shapes.
Bill, do you see a setting on your camera that says "AV?"
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Bill Stevens
Registered: April 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Posts: 712
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Sat October 6, 2007 11:58am
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The book has a section that follows: "The camera offers a choice of four assist and eleven scene modes. Choose one of these selections and the camera will automatically set all variables for the best picture". It then lists Portrait, Landscape, Sports, Night Portrait, Party, Beach, Snow, Sunset, Close up, Backlight, Museum and Panorama Assist". It also has a Macro Close Up. I can not find anything that will allow me to adjust aperature or speed. I am trying to figure out how much of the holo to include in a shot and at what resolution so I can edit the photo with software. I can not get any pictue that really resembles the wrap as seen with the eye. The pictures such as you show or anything in the ball park do not seem possible with the automatic digital camera that I have.
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James Labanowski
Registered: March 2005
Location: Oxnard, California
Posts: 2,061
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Sat October 6, 2007 12:09pm
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Bill try this for the odd shapes. In a small section (say about an inch) burnish have one direction then burnish the other half of it in the opposite direction away from the section you just burnished and see what you come up with if you like it the randomly do it thru an entire wrap that way. I have also gotten some odd stuff by just rolling and flattening after a coat of CP on the underwrap.
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Bill Stevens
Registered: April 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Posts: 712
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Sat October 6, 2007 5:27pm
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Thanks Doc! I am trying to figure out a way to predict the general way they will look so I can do sets of rods with a similar appearance and call them "exclusives" to that particular customer. I am running out of "exclusive colors" due to thread color choices used.
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Mark Daley
Registered: September 2007
Location: Woodland, CA
Posts: 283
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Sat October 6, 2007 8:23pm
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Bill, your camera is a fully automatic point and shoot model. Whatever mode you set, the camera sets the aperature and film speed automatically. Although this is a nice feature, you don't have control of your aperature settings or film speed, at least I haven't seen one. To take the quality photos you strive for, you would be best advised to purchase a mid range SLR digital camera. This type of camera lets you take point and shoot photos in a variety of scene selections. It also lets you use the camera manually, allowing you to to fine adjust your built in light meter, set any film speed you want, and through use of guide wheels, perfectly set your aperature for your lighting conditions. It's a through the fens camera that lets you see the subject matter through the lens, has focusing indicators such as lights and audio indicator, and a light meter that shows you where to set the correct aperature. I'm a Canon lover and a very good introductory digital camera for you would be the Canon Digital Rebel model. Your obviously a meticulous person who strives for perfection. Do it!! Buy one and you'll be able to accomplish exactly what you want. They are not that expensive. easy to use, and if you want, many, many optional lenses are interchangeable. The best utility lens for this camera would be a 28-135 mm lens, at least for most of your photo needs. The lens that comes with the camera will probably suit your needs for shooting rod wraps and close up shots in general. Talk Momma into getting you one for christmas, smooz her a little, I promise you, you won't regret it.
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Tom Kirkman
Registered: March 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,568
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Mon October 8, 2007 9:09am
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The Canon Digital Rebel is a fantastic camera. The XT model is being discontinued soon (XTi is the newest one and much more than you'll need) and you can find them for under $700.
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Bill Stevens
Registered: April 2005
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Posts: 712
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Mon October 8, 2007 12:36pm
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That was exactly what information I was looking for! This one will not wait for Christmas - on the way to the camera store now. I am printing this thread and taking it with me so the salesman will not deter me again from getting what I need. Thanks much for the detailed post!
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